Some fun here. Edwards-Helaire rushed for 1,415 yards and 16 touchdowns as a junior .. all-purpose yards -- receiving (55 receptions, 453 yards) and kick returner (KEY) 10 returns, 214 yards pic.twitter.com/3Duq1jjy6J
Holy offense Bat Man. I love Clyde Edwards-Helaire. He is best Rb in the draft. Watkins and Hill deep. Kelce in the middle. And Edwards-Helaire underneath. Good Luck defenses.
Brett Veach told Andy Reid to watch some Clyde Edwards-Helaire film and told Reid you’ll see Brian Westbrook. Reid watched. Then got back to Veach and said he’s better than Westbrook.
And Brian Westbrook? We’re talking about a totally different team/offense and a long time ago.
Kareem Hunt had 14 TD’s in 2018 in 11 fucking games. Shady’s fucking corpse had 5 last year. Those are the examples that are relevant, but you’re choosing to ignore. This offense is so good while creating so many scoring opportunities and Andy loves to use his backs in the red zone. What do you not get about that?
This is too easy man. You put on your dumbass hat today. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Now you’re changing the argument entirely :-)
What happened to “Noooo bitch stop misrepresenting me”? You got over that rather quickly and changed the subject. Would that happen to be because you’re a ****ing moron that just got exposed?
I recognize now that we're arguing semantics. It's fucking stupid and we will never agree on that. I should never have even mentioned it, but I was upset because I was sure to frame my original argument carefully as to not imply that it couldn't be done, only that it was unlikely. Then today you jumped into the whole "VIrUs ThInKs ItS cOmPlEtElY uNrEaLiStIc" shit, which is absurd because I never went even close to that far.
I'm choosing to put that to bed because it's ugly and no one reading this thread wants to see you and I go back and forth on fucking dictionary definitions.. but we can debate the original point again, like I said. So let's do it. Give me your piece. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
I recognize now that we're arguing semantics. It's fucking stupid and we will never agree on that. I should never have even mentioned it, but I was upset because I was sure to frame my original argument carefully as to not imply that it couldn't be done, only that it was unlikely. Then today you jumped into the whole "VIrUs ThInKs ItS cOmPlEtElY uNrEaLiStIc" shit, which is absurd because I never went even close to that far.
I'm choosing to put that to bed because it's ugly and no one reading this thread wants to see you and I go back and forth on fucking dictionary definitions.. but we can debate the original point again, like I said. So let's do it. Give me your piece.
I already did. Take your 2nd L and go home. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
And Brian Westbrook? We’re talking about a totally different team/offense and a long time ago.
Kareem Hunt had 14 TD’s in 2018 in 11 ****ing games. Shady’s ****ing corpse had 5 last year. Those are the examples that are relevant, but you’re choosing to ignore. This offense is so good while creating so many scoring opportunities and Andy loves to use his backs in the red zone. What do you not get about that?
This is too easy man. You put on your dumbass hat today.
Mhmm. In 2018, Kareem was a vet. What's more relevant would be his rookie season in which he only scored 11 TDs as the featured back. Took him 300+ touches to scored 11 TDs.
Shady had 5 TDs on 130 touches. He was actually pretty efficient last season. His big issue was ball security. You'd need to more than double his touches to get to 11 TDs. Are you really expecting CEH to get 275 touches this season? [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Mhmm. In 2018, Kareem was a vet. What's more relevant would be his rookie season in which he only scored 11 TDs as the featured back. Took him 300+ touches to scored 11 TDs.
Shady had 5 TDs on 130 touches. He was actually pretty efficient last season. His big issue was ball security. You'd need to more than double his touches to get to 11 TDs. Are you really expecting CEH to get 275 touches this season?
JFC, stop talking about anything before Mahomes. This offense with Mahomes creates way more scoring opportunities. I don’t care if Kareem was a vet, he was just as good as a rookie so that’s a weak fucking argument if I’ve ever seen one. Also, is it hard to fucking believe that CEH can double what 2019 McCoy did? That’s the point of bringing him up. He’s a corpse and he got half of what you’re saying is unrealistic for a guy that is much more talented and dynamic at this point of McCoy’s career. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
JFC, stop talking about anything before Mahomes. This offense with Mahomes creates way more scoring opportunities. I don’t care if Kareem was a vet, he was just as good as a rookie so that’s a weak fucking argument if I’ve ever seen one. Also, is it hard to fucking believe that CEH can double what 2019 McCoy did? That’s the point of bringing him up. He’s a corpse and he got half of what you’re saying is unrealistic for a guy that is much more talented and dynamic at this point of McCoy’s career.
It creates more opportunities but there are also more mouths to feed. CEH is in line behind Hill, Kelce, D Will, Watkins, and Hardman. If our sixth-ish option on offense scores 11 TDs then the league is fucked.
He could do it, but I think he’ll need to get close to doubling McCoy’s touches in order to do so. [Reply]
I wanted Justin Jefferson but that clearly wasn't going to happen after his 40. Then I wanted Aiyuk but he wasn't falling to us. I wanted Murray or Arnette too.
The fact that the Chiefs got their guy when all these players were gone is amazing. I think people will forget who was actually available when CEH was taken.
I've seen people upset that the Chiefs took CEH over Xavier McKinney. A friggin safety? And one that CEH PERSONALLY EMBARRASSED in the LSU / Alabama game.
Man I'm happy about this and will forever chalk up a win for Dane on talking us all into running back in the first as a concept. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
I wanted Justin Jefferson but that clearly wasn't going to happen after his 40. Then I wanted Aiyuk but he wasn't falling to us. I wanted Murray or Arnette too.
The fact that the Chiefs got their guy when all these players were gone is amazing. I think people will forget who was actually available when CEH was taken.
I've seen people upset that the Chiefs took CEH over Xavier McKinney. A friggin safety? And one that CEH PERSONALLY EMBARRASSED in the LSU / Alabama game.
Man I'm happy about this and will forever chalk up a win for Dane on talking us all into running back in the first as a concept.
CEH embarrassed a TON of guys that are going to be drawing NFL paychecks in that 'bama game. He had more spectacular games here and there, but nothing that more demonstrated how his strengths will translate at the next level.
He probably cost Trevon Diggs $1 million on his rookie contract. If the dude goes 6 spots sooner he's a million dollars richer. I gotta think a couple teams in the early 2nd happened to see one of the half-dozen times CEH put the kid in a body bag and thought "well maybe we'll move him down a spot or two on our big board..."
All it took was one spot further down the board to the team that would've otherwise taken him (with a whole lot of secondary needy teams picking at the top of the 2nd) to have nerfed that 1st contract in a big way.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Don't forget Seals-Jones.
I mean you've got 2 RBs that can split out and 2 TEs who could both play the 'move TE' role. Oh yeah, and Tyreek played RB in college and Sammy is very possibly better in space than ALL of them.
Andy's getting near that mythical 'positionless football' status with his skill position players.
I bet the dude just gets a hard-on four or five times/day while sitting in his basement diagramming plays.
That’s probably why he wanted CEH. Shady was good for the first month and then his age started to creep up and the decline started. Thompson and Darrel Williams were not that good when they went in.
Our offense put up 31 points on a damn good defense and Damien Williams was the biggest reason. You just can’t cover them all no matter what defense you have in today’s game.
Now that CEH and Williams are there it’s impossible to stop us bc there’s always going to be a RB on the field making LB’s miss in the receiving game and busting enough runs to make the defense respect our running game.
People are laughing at Denver and Oakland for loading up on offensive skill players, but honestly what choice do they have? They know more than anyone that no matter what defense they have they aren’t stopping us from scoring 30 unless injuries occur.
The only way to beat us is to pray your red zone defense can hold our offense to some FG’s and your offense scoring at least 30 for a chance. There’s just no other way. [Reply]
