Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).
Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.
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What the Chiefs can do with their money
Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.
Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.
Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:
•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving
Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.
The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?
If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.
If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:
Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.
Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.
Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.
In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.
Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
It’s like you guys didn’t even read the article. It was never about the money. Both sides agreed on money. It was when the contract would begin. Jones wanted it to start last year and chiefs wanted it to start this year. Guess what that problem is now gone. I expect Jones to get a long term deal similar to Clark’s deal
What the fuck are you talking about?
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Per a league source at the time, Jones was seeking a deal similar in value to teammate Frank Clark’s, who signed a five-year, $105 million with $63.5 million guaranteed. The Chiefs were unwilling to go there, stuck closer to $42 million guaranteed over the new deal’s first three years. The math was simple for Kansas City. Jones’ 2019 salary plus two tags? Around $42 million. The gulf was too wide to bridge.
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
The trade offer has to be killer I think to move on. This isn’t Dee Ford, this is a dude who kills QBs and bats down multiple passes in crunch time of a Super Bowl.
I’m starting to think they should say no to anything less than a 1st and 2nd.
That’s also what I think should be minimum compensation.
Jones coached by Daly the next few years probably makes him a DMVP type player. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I'd take a #1 and a #3.
Like Miami's.
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Still feels light, although I suppose it depends on which of Miami's firsts.
ESPN's NFL live yesterday was saying a 2nd rounder was a good deal. All 3 agreed.
But, this isn't about next year alone. No team is paying $20 million a year to two defensive lineman. Too many needs on a team. Look at the Super Bowl, best DL we saw all year. Most of those guys are going to get their $20 million a year some day. They still didn't make a huge difference in the game.
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
ESPN's NFL live yesterday was saying a 2nd rounder was a good deal. All 3 agreed.
But, this isn't about next year alone. No team is paying $20 million a year to two defensive lineman. Too many needs on a team. Look at the Super Bowl, best DL we saw all year. Most of those guys are going to get their $20 million a year some day. They still didn't make a huge difference in the game.
We have to make hard choices.
If you don't think the 9er dl made a huge difference in that game, well, I think we may have watched different games. [Reply]
Of course they can make it work next year. This is about the Mahomes era. We cant smoke and mirrors, move shit around etc. this entire era. We need to not gamble for the next 2-3 years and then enter cap hell while wasting Mahomes prime years. As long as we have Mahomes, we have a chance at the Super Bowl. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
If you don't think the 9er dl made a huge difference in that game, well, I think we may have watched different games.
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Uhh,that niner line was the only reason they had a chance. JFC people...
The point was that having 3-4 $20 million DL men on your team doesn't guarantee or get you reasonably close to a Super Bowl. They cant make up for the deficiencies elsewhere caused by no money for the other positions. [Reply]