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TLO 02:08 PM 10-26-2020
I found out today that a good friend of mine from high school committed suicide last night. This has never happened to someone I knew closely.

I'm not sure how to process the emotions I'm feeling.
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dlphg9 03:25 AM 10-27-2020
My fiance suffered from Postpartum Depression after our 2nd kid. She had never had depression before that and had suicidal thoughts, but never acted on them or anything. She contacted her OB and they told her to go to the emergency room, so I took her. The way she was treated there was such a load of shit. She had to be escorted to a room by security, had all of her possessions locked up(phone, clothes, purse) and all they did was have her Tele health with a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist would decide if she got to leave.

They almost didn't let me stay, but we had a 3 month old that needed breast fed, so they reluctantly did. She wasn't allowed to leave her room and if the psychiatrist decided that she was a danger during a fucking video conference they could have kept her their against her will. We sat in that room for 5 hours waiting for the psychiatrist to make the call and she talked to her for 15 min and said she could go and they set her up to see a psychiatrist. Then we sat another couple hours waiting for them to discharge her. I started calling the front desk every 5 minutes asking when we were gonna be let out because it was close to time to pick my kid up from school. I was livid over the whole experience, but kept my mouth shut because I didn't wanna piss someone off and then they decide that my fiance needed to stay.

She didn't even want to go because she had read horror stories about how mothers with PPD were treated like criminals because they were looking for help and wanted to get better. The lack of any type of comfort or sympathy was fucking sickening. These stories are way to common and it's a deterrent for these women to get help.

Were about to have baby number 3 in as little as 3 weeks and it scares the shit out of me that she will get PPD again. I won't see her treated like that again. Hospitals are supposed to be sympathetic towards the people that they are caring for, but most of them have the same type of protocol for a mother with thoughts of suicide. She didn't have a plan or anything. Was not a danger to anyone or even herself and she told them that she was just having the thoughts and had no intentions of killing herself . She just wanted to not feel like our newborn was better off if she wasn't around. I fucking hate hospitals.
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Rasputin 03:44 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
My fiance suffered from Postpartum Depression after our 2nd kid. She had never had depression before that and had suicidal thoughts, but never acted on them or anything. She contacted her OB and they told her to go to the emergency room, so I took her. The way she was treated there was such a load of shit. She had to be escorted to a room by security, had all of her possessions locked up(phone, clothes, purse) and all they did was have her Tele health with a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist would decide if she got to leave.

They almost didn't let me stay, but we had a 3 month old that needed breast fed, so they reluctantly did. She wasn't allowed to leave her room and if the psychiatrist decided that she was a danger during a fucking video conference they could have kept her their against her will. We sat in that room for 5 hours waiting for the psychiatrist to make the call and she talked to her for 15 min and said she could go and they set her up to see a psychiatrist. Then we sat another couple hours waiting for them to discharge her. I started calling the front desk every 5 minutes asking when we were gonna be let out because it was close to time to pick my kid up from school. I was livid over the whole experience, but kept my mouth shut because I didn't wanna piss someone off and then they decide that my fiance needed to stay.

She didn't even want to go because she had read horror stories about how mothers with PPD were treated like criminals because they were looking for help and wanted to get better. The lack of any type of comfort or sympathy was fucking sickening. These stories are way to common and it's a deterrent for these women to get help.

Were about to have baby number 3 in as little as 3 weeks and it scares the shit out of me that she will get PPD again. I won't see her treated like that again. Hospitals are supposed to be sympathetic towards the people that they are caring for, but most of them have the same type of protocol for a mother with thoughts of suicide. She didn't have a plan or anything. Was not a danger to anyone or even herself and she told them that she was just having the thoughts and had no intentions of killing herself . She just wanted to not feel like our newborn was better off if she wasn't around. I fucking hate hospitals.

Well that pretty much sickens me to hear that she was treated like that and in no way is that protocol and there is no excuse for her or women who suffer PD to be treated like that . makes me mad :-)


Blessings and good thoughts your way for the new newborn and I pray she knows she is a wonderful mom and wife i'm sure because I can tell you love her and care for her. God blessings is the best I can say unless I can think of anything else.
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ChiefsFanatic 04:14 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Demonpenz:
I got taken by an ambulance but my blood pressure was through the roof and I was a danger to myself and others. If you have a plan and the means to kill yourself I think they can grab you. All I know is I am sick and tired of talking about suicide prevention then when you talk about it you get people saying "Cheer up bucko!" The reality is that depression is terrible and people are going to kill themselves. It doesn't get better for anyone. Even today it was awful for me and I struggle to put on a happy face. If I don't put on a happy face people think I am not doing good and I may be taken back to the psyche ward. It has taken years and thousands of dollars and going through med changes after med changes to get me to the point I don't think about killing myself daily. Also what chaps my ass is when people say "DON'T TALK ABOUT SUICIDE TO YOUR MOM OR DAD IT SCARES THEM!" I mean I am the one in so much pain I want to kill myself sorry if it scares people it should scare them.
I hate when people tell me that being happy is just a choice, and if I decided to be happy and cheerful I wouldn't be depressed anymore. People who have never battled depression really don't believe in it, even if they say they do, and talk about it like an informed person, deep down they don't believe it exists.

I know that in today's culture, it seems like everyone has accepted that depression and mental illness are real, and a real problem, but if so many people without mental illness really believed, there would be a much bigger sustained push to make mental health a priority, with taxpayer funded programs making access to mental health care possible for everyone who needed it. And there would be a bigger push to include adequate, important training for all law enforcement who, because of the lack of accessibility for mental health care, end up dealing with people in the public who suffer mental illness.

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Coochie liquor 06:15 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by notorious:
Man, I just......I'm sorry.
Thanks man. Luckily I had 2 girls that needed me to make it through that all or I likely wouldn’t be here.
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493rd 06:20 AM 10-27-2020
Sorry to hear. I lost a close friend last year from suicide. When I hear songs he used to love from bands we both liked I get sad. He left behind a wife and two daughters that we still talk to. It’s hard for sure, but the one thing I’ve stopped trying to figure out is why he did it. It’s mentally exhausting and I’ve learned to let it be. Look forward and know that it’s always okay to grieve loss. I wish you the best.
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Buehler445 07:03 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
My fiance suffered from Postpartum Depression after our 2nd kid. She had never had depression before that and had suicidal thoughts, but never acted on them or anything. She contacted her OB and they told her to go to the emergency room, so I took her. The way she was treated there was such a load of shit. She had to be escorted to a room by security, had all of her possessions locked up(phone, clothes, purse) and all they did was have her Tele health with a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist would decide if she got to leave.

They almost didn't let me stay, but we had a 3 month old that needed breast fed, so they reluctantly did. She wasn't allowed to leave her room and if the psychiatrist decided that she was a danger during a fucking video conference they could have kept her their against her will. We sat in that room for 5 hours waiting for the psychiatrist to make the call and she talked to her for 15 min and said she could go and they set her up to see a psychiatrist. Then we sat another couple hours waiting for them to discharge her. I started calling the front desk every 5 minutes asking when we were gonna be let out because it was close to time to pick my kid up from school. I was livid over the whole experience, but kept my mouth shut because I didn't wanna piss someone off and then they decide that my fiance needed to stay.

She didn't even want to go because she had read horror stories about how mothers with PPD were treated like criminals because they were looking for help and wanted to get better. The lack of any type of comfort or sympathy was fucking sickening. These stories are way to common and it's a deterrent for these women to get help.

Were about to have baby number 3 in as little as 3 weeks and it scares the shit out of me that she will get PPD again. I won't see her treated like that again. Hospitals are supposed to be sympathetic towards the people that they are caring for, but most of them have the same type of protocol for a mother with thoughts of suicide. She didn't have a plan or anything. Was not a danger to anyone or even herself and she told them that she was just having the thoughts and had no intentions of killing herself . She just wanted to not feel like our newborn was better off if she wasn't around. I fucking hate hospitals.
Jesus Christ.

My wife had PPD with our first kid and of course didn’t tell me or anyone else about it until years later. Like your wife she wasn’t suicidal towards herself or the baby, just unhappy. This story horrified me. I can’t imagine how someone in our wives shoes would feel in that situation.

Congrats on the 3rd kid. Hopefully PPD doesn’t come back. It didn’t for my wife with the second kid.
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Fish 08:15 AM 10-27-2020
I had to kick down my dad's bathroom door one night when my sister was trying to cut her wrists. She'd been hooked on pain killers and just couldn't climb back out of the hole. Fortunately the cuts were mostly superficial. She had to be admitted, and yeah it was really ugly to see. The way they treat those people in need of mental help was just appalling.

We have a mental health issue in this country that is bigger and more important than many people want to admit.
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ChiTown 09:20 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Fish:
I had to kick down my dad's bathroom door one night when my sister was trying to cut her wrists. She'd been hooked on pain killers and just couldn't climb back out of the hole. Fortunately the cuts were mostly superficial. She had to be admitted, and yeah it was really ugly to see. The way they treat those people in need of mental help was just appalling.

We have a mental health issue in this country that is bigger and more important than many people want to admit.
100% agree. We need a greater focus on mental health in the US. People take this stuff for granted because we assume life should be easy for everyone. Fact is, it's tremendously difficult for many people, and we tend to blow it off as "they'll be fine". And as you allude to in your first paragraph, we are woefully deficient in how we treat mental illness - it's damn near criminal.
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Demonpenz 10:46 AM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
I found out today that a good friend of mine from high school committed suicide last night. This has never happened to someone I knew closely.

I'm not sure how to process the emotions I'm feeling.
Originally Posted by Rasputin:
Antidepressants to keep you from killing yourself side affect "may cause suicide" . Irony at it's finest.


I'm pretty much in the same boat you are in i think. I didn't want to go because I knew it be a giant bill for me to pay. I wanted to jump out of the car the girl that was taking me was part of the reason I was having issues and she was lecturing me on the way there. I opened the door I don't know if i was going to jump but it shut her up.

Antidepressants can get you feeling better to get out of bed and kill yourself. I went from med to med. Wellbutrin prozac and depekote and stratera is what I take everyday. If I take off an flma day for treatment people think I am faking and because of the depression if you spent the day with me I look like the dumbest mother fucker around. I can't focus on correct change I can't remember whom I talked too i just fuck up nom stop trying to put on a front so that won't make me go back to the nut house. On top of that since I make simple mistakes over and over people get sick of me and call me fat or dumb or belittle me. Research medical centerr psyche ward was ok. 2 Rivers and hospitals are a disaster. At least when you don't get help you have hope that when you get help it will get better. When you do get better it makes it worse way worse. Now people have to "keep an eye on you" they act they are doing a huge thing when it is just being a good person depression or not. I have giving up work co workers family pretty much everyone on working with me with anxiety depression. People act like they care to pat themselves on the back but they never even ask how I want to be treated. They send a FB message with a emoji cheer up st least you are in Ethiopia!!
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Demonpenz 10:50 AM 10-27-2020
Even at hospitals and psyche ward you get treated like trash when you are close to killing yourself all the while racking up debt. We aren't even close to making suicide go away. Expect people that you thought would never kill themselves to kill themselves.
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Demonpenz 10:52 AM 10-27-2020
I am used to feeling like a failure and worthless but to a person that isn't used to it they think it is true and go down until they kill themselves. There are going to be a ton of suicides coming up because people whom have never been not successful broke divorced alone in debt are going to be hurting and they don't have the skills to cope.
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BigBeauford 11:11 AM 10-27-2020
So many soldiers I knew personally, and proximally (different companies) committed suicide shortly after our deployment, and sometime after they were discharged. Its a fucking epidemic.
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gblowfish 11:25 AM 10-27-2020
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/..._Post-Dispatch
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Pitt Gorilla 12:28 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Kill yourself.
Fascinating to see that common courtesy/sense can't stop you from being you.
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gblowfish 12:40 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Fascinating to see that common courtesy/sense can't stop you from being you.
He's Mr. Compassion from the DC Cesspool.
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