Originally Posted by Hoover:
This is a deal I'd make in a heartbeat.
I figured his contract wouldn't allow it.
He's only on the books for 7M next year. I'd gladly give up our 1st rounder for Gilmore for the rest of this year and next. Easy decision.
We would be unstoppable with Gilmore, but I don't know that we need him as much as we did before. Fenton, Ward and Sneed look like they will be solid for years to come. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Because its adds depth this year but more importantly provides us with a #1 CB to replace Breeland next year.
Trading a high draft pick just to add depth to a position of strength is not worth it.
Also Gilmore is a 30 year old CB whose play is already showing signs of decline this season and you want the Chiefs to absorb his $7 million base salary against their already tight salary cap situation in 2021?
Since we all know that PFF is the be-all, end-all, I'd like to point out that they are not grading Gilmore well at all this year. Current 2020 grade is 61.0. (For comparison Fenton is at 70.6 and Ward is at 58.6.) [Reply]
Originally Posted by wazu:
Since we all know that PFF is the be-all, end-all, I'd like to point out that they are not grading Gilmore well at all this year. Current 2020 grade is 61.0. (For comparison Fenton is at 70.6 and Ward is at 58.6.)
I am no longer of a belief that PFF knows what they are talking about. They thought Steven Nelson was an elite corner. They graded Mahomes badly in some scenarios when it doesn't make sense.
They don't interpret the nuance in the game of football. For example, yesterday Nick Foles threw 2 ints. Did they matter? Not not at all. Did he play well? Absolutely not. But his 2 ints were a result of him trying to play uber aggressive to get his team back in the game at the very end of the 3rd qtr and 4th qtr. PFF would grade him poorly. Would you have preferred him to throw screens and throw it away like Derek Carr? Of course not. Similarly when a LB is in a bad position to stop the run and they "let up" a huge gain they don't know the LB's responsibilities. Were they spying the QB? Were they playing covg? etc [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
I am no longer of a belief that PFF knows what they are talking about. They thought Steven Nelson was an elite corner. They graded Mahomes badly in some scenarios when it doesn't make sense.
They don't interpret the nuance in the game of football. For example, yesterday Nick Foles threw 2 ints. Did they matter? Not not at all. Did he play well? Absolutely not. But his 2 ints were a result of him trying to play uber aggressive to get his team back in the game at the very end of the 3rd qtr and 4th qtr. PFF would grade him poorly. Would you have preferred him to throw screens and throw it away like Derek Carr? Of course not. Similarly when a LB is in a bad position to stop the run and they "let up" a huge gain they don't know the LB's responsibilities. Were they spying the QB? Were they playing covg? etc
It's one data point. Another data point is the Patriots are ready to cut bait. Another data point is he's now on the wrong side of 30. Absolutely hell to the no on sending a first round pick for this guy. [Reply]