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Nzoner's Game Room>Deshaun Watson requests trade
Trent Green GOAT 09:06 AM 01-28-2021
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dlphg9 03:35 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
1-2 in the playoffs says otherwise. The one win was just three points. One of the losses he was spotted 24 pts in the first quarter.
Yeah Watson gets way too much hype on this site.
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ModSocks 03:45 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Yeah Watson gets way too much hype on this site.
A two year playoff window is how we determine a QB's ability?

GMAFB with that shit, ya'll are presenting your argument like Bills fans.

That's the most ridiculous measure ive ever heard.

If you want to talk about this site's habits, it far more habitually undervalues any QB not named Mahomes.
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Mecca 03:47 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
A two year playoff window is how we determine a QB's ability?

GMAFB with that shit, ya'll are presenting your argument like Bills fans.

That's the most ridiculous measure ive ever heard.

If you want to talk about this site's habits, it far more habitually undervalues any QB not named Mahomes.
This site undervalued QB's for years and years before Mahomes, there was always a heavy "no 1st round QB" contingent.
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Megatron96 03:48 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
1-2 in the playoffs says otherwise. The one win was just three points. One of the losses he was spotted 24 pts in the first quarter.
Watson vs. all NFL QBs 2020:
8th in completions
3rd in completion%-70.2% (1st-Rodgers 70.7%)
1st in yards (4,823)
1st in yds/att (8.9)
2nd in yds/gm (301)
25 pts above NFL avg QBR
2nd in Passer rtg (112.4)


All without D. Hopkins.

Btw, Watson didn't play one snap of defense in last year's AFCDG. He also didn't call any defensive plays. Or offensive plays. Like kicking a FG from KC's 11-yd line.
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ModSocks 03:52 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Watson vs. all NFL QBs 2020:
8th in completions
3rd in completion%-70.2% (1st-Rodgers 70.7%)
1st in yards (4,823)
1st in yds/att (8.9)
2nd in yds/gm (301)
25 pts above NFL avg QBR
2nd in Passer rtg (112.4)


All without D. Hopkins.

Btw, Watson didn't play one snap of defense in last year's AFCDG. He also didn't call any defensive plays. Or offensive plays. Like kicking a FG from KC's 11-yd line.
And to add some context to that, he did it while playing for what is now known as the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL while being coached by ROMEO FUCKING CRENNEL.

ROME CRENNEL, people. ROMEO CRENNEL. GMAFB.

You might as well just say he had no HC.
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DaneMcCloud 03:52 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Mecca:
This site undervalued QB's for years and years before Mahomes, there was always a heavy "no 1st round QB" contingent.
I was pushing for Mahomes in early January 2017 in the Draft Forum (my posts are easily searchable) but some people said that if he had to sit a year, he was only worth a 3rd rounder while others who shall remain nameless said to wait until 2018 because "The 2018 QB class is SO MUCH BETTER!".

The number of people on CP that devalued quarterbacks until Mahomes arrived is astonishing.
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DaneMcCloud 03:54 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
And to add some context to that, he did it while playing for what is now known as the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL while being coached by ROMEO FUCKING CRENNEL.

ROME CRENNEL, people. ROMEO CRENNEL. GMAFB.

You might as well just say he had no HC.
If the Chiefs didn't have Mahomes I'd be all over this trade.

While Watson isn't Mahomes, I think he'd be very, very successful under Andy Reid's tutelage.

If he goes to San Fran, look out.
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TEX 03:54 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
49ers should trade HOU Jimmy, and give up 2 First Rounders and 2 2nd Rounders.
And with all the Ex-Patriot Hacks in the organization, I'm sure they'd listen and welcome Jimmy G with extra open arms if a trade was to go down.
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TEX 03:55 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
If the Chiefs didn't have Mahomes I'd be all over this trade.

While Watson isn't Mahomes, I think he'd be very, very successful under Andy Reid's tutelage.

If he goes to San Fran, look out.
He would absolutely BEAST in that offense.
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kevrunner 03:57 PM 01-28-2021
Since Watson is demanding to be traded, but has a no-trade clause which limits the teams and potential trade value the Texans get in return, wouldn’t it be beneficial for the Texans to publicly say they will grant Watson his trade request as long as he waives his no trade clause first?
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DaneMcCloud 04:00 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by TEX:
He would absolutely BEAST in that offense.
With their defensive personnel, Shanahan's QB friendly scheme and Deshaun Watson at QB, they'd be atop the NFC for at least the next 4 seasons.

Rodgers can't win the big games, Russ can't cook for an entire season and there's no doubt in my mind that Watson would be the best QB in the NFC for the foreseeable future.

They're receiving three additional 3rd round picks for Saleh and Mayhew, so they have the ammo to make it happen and that's without adding in compensation for Garoppolo.

John Lynch has probably already burned through a few phones trying to make that trade.
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DaneMcCloud 04:01 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by kevrunner:
Since Watson is demanding to be traded, but has a no-trade clause which limits the teams and potential trade value the Texans get in return, wouldn’t it be beneficial for the Texans to publicly say they will grant Watson his trade request as long as he waives his no trade clause first?
No
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penguinz 04:02 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Watson vs. all NFL QBs 2020:
8th in completions
3rd in completion%-70.2% (1st-Rodgers 70.7%)
1st in yards (4,823)
1st in yds/att (8.9)
2nd in yds/gm (301)
25 pts above NFL avg QBR
2nd in Passer rtg (112.4)


All without D. Hopkins.

Btw, Watson didn't play one snap of defense in last year's AFCDG. He also didn't call any defensive plays. Or offensive plays. Like kicking a FG from KC's 11-yd line.
1-2 in playoffs and a career 50% win rate with a 3-1 TD/INT says he is not worth his contract.
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TEX 04:02 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
With their defensive personnel, Shanahan's QB friendly scheme and Deshaun Watson at QB, they'd be atop the NFC for at least the next 4 seasons.

Rodgers can't win the big games, Russ can't cook for an entire season and there's no doubt in my mind that Watson would be the best QB in the NFC for the foreseeable future.

They're receiving three additional 3rd round picks for Saleh and Mayhew, so they have the ammo to make it happen and that's without adding in compensation for Garoppolo.

John Lynch has probably already burned through a few phones trying to make that trade.
Yep. S-C-A-R-Y for the NFC. Would be a great situation for the 49'ers and Watson.
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DaneMcCloud 04:03 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
1-2 in playoffs and a career 50% win rate with a 3-1 TD/INT says he is not worth his contract.
When you consider the coaching staff (or lack thereof), their personnel (who in the fuck trades D Hop for an old, broken down running back?) and their defense, he's worth more than his current contract because the team is an epic disaster from top to bottom.
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