... the word in the Chiefs building is that they would like to trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes or RB Christian McCaffrey in the first round. If this falls through, he said they like ILB Zach Cunningham a lot as well. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
There will be 10 quarterbacks drafted in the top 50.... so I hope KC trades up with 59 + 91 to go and get Trevor Knight... because he wouldn't be there at 59 either..
They are all.. just... that.. good. Believe it, folks... believe it.
I can see that from you. 2400 yards, 19 td's 7 Int's, who does that sound like??? [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
His throwing motion looms repeatable to me. He throws from some different arm angles but that doesn't look like an issue to me. His footwork is bad, but I'm not sure that that tough of a fix to be honest I'm not sure he's ever had to work on it.
Yeah because his footwork doesn't make him inaccurate.
He should work on it but I'm not worried. As for his throwing motion welp. He throws bulls-eyes from a cannon and was a pitcher so if it ain't broke.... [Reply]
Texas Tech QB Patrick Mahomes said he's been building a rapport with Texans coach Bill O'Brien.
"I feel like a lot of coaches like me, but especially coach O’Brien," said Mahomes. "I think my personality and how real I am, those are things beyond what I can do on the field that he likes." Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle confirms that Mahomes' visit with the Texans went "extremely well." The Texans are fully expected to draft a quarterback but Mahomes may be gone by the time they pick at 25th overall. If O'Brien is as smitten as he seems, the Texans could trade up for a chance at Mahomes. [Reply]
All this media talk is just an educated guess, not really a leak IMO
Educated guessing:
John Dorsey has drafted for need with his 1st pick every year since he's been in KC. He has drafted for need the FOLLOWING year instead of the current one. It gives the draftee a year to learn from the player he is replacing.
Jones - Poe (Howard takes Poe's position, jones takes Howard's)
Peters - Sean Smith
Ford - Houston or Hali (contract stuff worked out though and we kept both)
Fisher - Albert
Alex Smith's contract doesn't end until 2019, but his salary cap number might be high enough that they could be looking to move on a year early. Alex Smith will gladly restructure though, I wouldn't count on it.
The other positions that have free agents next year are NT, CB and LB.
So if Dorsey sticks with his trend, our 1st pick will be taken from these positions: NT, CB, LB or maybe QB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
You have no idea what the Chiefs want. None.
Either you think that Chiefs are leaking insider information or it's a just an educated guess that they want a QB.
Which is it?
It's all a guess for every team. I doubt if any teams are leaking things other than what they want to say as a smoke screen.
The point is that just because the media is saying a player is connected to us doesn't mean it's a smoke screen just like it doesn't mean we will draft him.
The only thing we know is that we will most likely draft a QB. Ron Wolf taught Dorsey and Andy to take one every year and they have for the most part. Doesn't mean it will be Mahomes.
I want Mahomes but I think it will be Josh Dobbs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
All this media talk is just an educated guess, not really a leak IMO
Educated guessing:
John Dorsey has drafted for need with his 1st pick every year since he's been in KC. He has drafted for need the FOLLOWING year instead of the current one. It gives the draftee a year to learn from the player he is replacing.
Jones - Poe (Howard takes Poe's position, jones takes Howard's)
Peters - Sean Smith
Ford - Houston or Hali (contract stuff worked out though and we kept both)
Fisher - Albert
Alex Smith's contract doesn't end until 2019, but his salary cap number might be high enough that they could be looking to move on a year early. Alex Smith will gladly restructure though, I wouldn't count on it.
The other positions that have free agents next year are NT, CB and LB.
So if Dorsey sticks with his trend, our 1st pick will be taken from these positions: NT, CB, LB or maybe QB.
All true, but now go in the order of 'most likely to have to take in the 1st round' to 'least likely' and aren't you able to rank order that a bit?
1) QB - Smith; if you're replacing him in '18, it's going to take a first rounder
2) LB - Johnson and Chaff - This is a thin ILB class, IMO. After the 2nd round, you're digging through Ramik Wilson kind of LBers unless you think you can snag someone like Kendall Beckwith or Alex Anzalone and get lucky with injuries.
3) NT - also not a great NT class but there are some guys here that will likely be able to be found in the 2nd and 3rd rounds; guys like Jaleel Johnson, Montravus Adams, Elijah Qualls, etc...; you can get your NT a little later. And if you needed to, Jones could play the nose so you can add a pile of solid DEs to this list to deepen it if you wanted.
4) CB - Just in INSANELY deep draft class and you're not looking to replace CB1 next year, rather you're looking at CB2 where you can scheme around some weaknesses.
Based on that, I think you're likely to see QB, ILB, DL and possibly WR in that order (Maclin is a very possible cap casualty next season). [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
Draft pundits answer me this:
Why is Kizer getting shit on for a lack of success in South Bend last season when he was clearly surrounded by less talent, and his head coach played mind games with him? You look at Mahomes who garnered hyper-Madden stats last season but the Red Raiders finish 5-7, and Mahomes had a chance to win a couple of those games late but could not. Please spare me the "bad defense" argument.
The same arguments used to tear down one prospect are being ignored to apply to another.
This must be a super tough qb class to evaluate and project. I've been on the fence with Kizer. He might have the highest ceiling of the bunch, but there is something about his character that turns me off. His measurables and ability to throw the ball are fantastic and he is intelligent as well. But I am at a loss as to what type of leader this guy will be.
On the other hand you have Mahomes who intrigues people with his arm talent and athleticism. He seems to be a bright enough kid, but when you watch game tape, for as many times as he excites with the plays he makes, you are also cringing at some of the decisions and 50-50 balls he puts up. His mechanics are not pretty and he evidently needs a ton of refinement. There seem to be little to no concerns about his ability to lead.
In the end I think you have two promising prospects that are unfortunately being treated very differently by media types.
Mahomes' accuracy on intermediate routes, especially to the outside, was appreciably better, his willingness to put balls into tight windows is better, his release is much faster and his decision time to let it fly was much faster, his decision making on most passes was slightly better, and he visibly showed hat he is a willing and energetic leader of the team. Other than that, they have very similar things to work on. [Reply]
