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Mr. Wizard 03:28 PM 10-27-2020
:-):-) I just lost all of my computer data dating back 20 years. Long story short I had it BACKED UP on a 2tb portable hard drive which I dropped. It's trashed. 2 different sysops looked at it. I can send it to the company and pray but that bill starts at $1000.00 They took it apart and its running but the arm is scratching back and forth across the disk. No light comes on and it is not recognized by any computer I plug it into. 20 years of taxes, personal files, small business files and lesson plans and lessons from my 30 years of teaching welding - gone.:-):-)

Truthfully I had it backed up on my computer c drive which had to be re-imaged.
My though was, it gets re-imaged, I copy everything back, now I still have two copies. :-)BAM god punished me.:-):-)

Don't be me, back that stuff up twice. I would do it on "the cloud" but know little about it. Mr. Wizard is wrong again!

PS is the cloud a good idea for an old dog like me?
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Buehler445 03:37 PM 10-27-2020
If you get a subscription to office 365 it gives you a 1TB One Drive Account. It acts like a file on your computer but is stored in the cloud.

On the farm we use dropbox because we had dropbox before one drive existed.

That's where it's at my man.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 03:39 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Please tell me you don't have a flip phone still.
:-) No but I'm not computer smart!
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htismaqe 03:39 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
But a USB is the size of one cigarette.
They're also slower, more limited in both size and file system options, and wear out. Flash chips have a limited life and can fail when you least expect it, losing all of your data.

A good mechanical drive is cheap and potentially last for years of continuous writes.
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Mr. Wizard 03:40 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by New World Order:
That's why you have to backup your files on a floppy disk
I did, thats the point
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htismaqe 03:40 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
:-) No but I'm not computer smart!
I you have an iPhone with an Apple account or an Android with a Google (or Samsung) account, you should be able to set up your contacts to backup to the cloud automatically. In fact, your phone should be setup that way by default.
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Mr. Wizard 03:41 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Dude.

Always back everything up AT LEAST twice.

I actually do hourly -> daily -> weekly -> monthly rollups to two different destinations, one of which I keep in a fireproof safe.
Is the cloud a good idea?
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htismaqe 03:41 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard:
How much would it cost. I am willing to try, just not gonna drop $1000.00 for them to start and then $50.00 per hour plus parts. I would but I got kids in college man.
The chances of them being able to recover your data is really small.

Very few of these data restoral techniques are worth the cost.
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Deberg_1990 03:41 PM 10-27-2020
Still have my trusty 250MB Iomega zip drive.
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htismaqe 03:44 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard:
Is the cloud a good idea?
Depends on what you are looking for and what you are storing.

You can store files and photos on Microsoft's cloud if you're on Windows, it's built in but I'm not sure how much storage you get.

Some services, like Amazon only allow unlimited storage for photos.

Most cloud plans cost money per month if they're standalone, like Backblaze or iDrive.

The big benefit of cloud backup is you don't have to worry about a disaster. If your house burns down or gets wiped out by an earthquake, you won't have to worry about it.
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Hog's Gone Fishin 03:44 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
If you get a subscription to office 365 it gives you a 1TB One Drive Account. It acts like a file on your computer but is stored in the cloud.

On the farm we use dropbox because we had dropbox before one drive existed.

That's where it's at my man.
I'm old fashioned in a way that feels like using that shit gives microsoft or whoever runs that cloud has access to all my info.
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htismaqe 03:44 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
Still have my trusty 250MB Iomega zip drive.
:-)
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htismaqe 03:46 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
I'm old fashioned in a way that feels like using that shit gives microsoft or whoever runs that cloud has access to all my info.
Dude, your phone is connected to the internet. They already have access to that data in transit if they really want it.

Most online services encrypt your data at rest and some of them don't even have a means to decrypt it without your intervention.
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TribalElder 03:47 PM 10-27-2020
That sucks

good news though you can probably re-download all that porn again
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Mr. Wizard 03:48 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Guys,

You can buy 4TB of storage in the size of a cigarette box for less than $100.

Don't use DVD's, USB flash drives, or anything like that.

Buy two external hard drives and use them both.
I hate to disagree but flash drives are bulletproof. External hard drives are NOT.
They can't take any punishment at all. I dropped this one 6" and its done????
I know my job requires alot of moving around from computer to computer but Never again.
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Mr. Wizard 03:49 PM 10-27-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Please tell me you don't have a flip phone still.
I would LOVE a flip phone like my old nokia from 2o years ago. Bulletproof
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