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Nzoner's Game Room>****The Official 2019 STL Cardinals Thread****
BigRedChief 03:23 AM 01-10-2019
Cardinals announce 25-man Opening Day roster for the 2019 season.
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2019 Opening Day Line up
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Won the Central Division. Won the NLDS.

NLDS Playoff roster
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NLDS Playoff Game 1 starting lineup
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NLCS Game One Starting lineup
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Chief Roundup 08:20 PM 10-05-2019
Most teams want this. The teams have been using the Luxury Tax as sort of a cap.
It was just last year that the Yankees and Dodgers filed a grievance against several teams for not spending the shared monies of the luxury taxes as intended.
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2112 08:26 PM 10-05-2019
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
Yup... The current luxury tax doesn't prevent teams like the Yankees from simply buying up most of the talent.
What talent have the Yankees been “buying up” recently? Gio urshela cost $25,000, judge is making a whopping $550,000 a year. Most of them are homegrown.

They did sign DJ for 2 years on the cheap because he wanted to play for the Yankees.

George Steinbrenner’s been dead for 9 years and his sons hate the luxury tax and are not spending like crazy anymore.
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Chief Roundup 09:17 PM 10-05-2019
Originally Posted by jd1020:
The Yankees haven't been to a WS in 10 years.
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
The Patriots of the MLB?!? Are you serious? Maybe the late 90’s version.

The Yankees haven’t dominated the sport since then. They won one World Series title in the last 15 years, the same amount as the Royals and one less than the Cardinals.

Calling the Yankees the equivalent of the Patriots is both insulting to the Patsies and a compliment not worthy of the Yankers.
I didn't clarify that well enough. The Yankees are synonyms with the most money paid for players. The teams that spend the most win the most. The Sox, the Astros, the Cubs, the Dodgers, etc. There have been a few that were not top spenders.
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BigRedChief 09:22 PM 10-05-2019
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
No it was not. That was from the strike.
and the strike was over a hard salary cap.
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Chief Roundup 09:36 PM 10-05-2019
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
and the strike was over a hard salary cap.
That is a little simplistic. It was not a hard salary cap back then. It was just a salary cap and the problem was about revenue sharing. Let us not forget that the CBA negotiations were pushed until the final year. You don't think it was a huge deal to the players that they wanted to reduce their share of the revenues from 56 to 50%, oh and they expected the players to pay for their pensions and healthcare out of that reduced portion?
The hard cap was not the deal breaker.
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ChiefsCountry 09:49 PM 10-05-2019
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Like most of baseball is tired of the Yankees, the Patriots of the MLB?
What a dumb informed post.
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ChiefsCountry 09:56 PM 10-05-2019
36% of MLB teams have made the World Series since 2010.
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duncan_idaho 05:18 AM 10-06-2019
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Most teams want this. The teams have been using the Luxury Tax as sort of a cap.

It was just last year that the Yankees and Dodgers filed a grievance against several teams for not spending the shared monies of the luxury taxes as intended.

The luxury tax is close enough and is serving as a de facto cap. Teams are no longer overspending on FA and the bigger markets are very cautious about committing to going over the threshold for extended periods due to the penalties.

MLB salary cap is a 2009 talking point. It’s no longer relevant.



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crayzkirk 06:26 AM 10-06-2019
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Most teams want this. The teams have been using the Luxury Tax as sort of a cap.
It was just last year that the Yankees and Dodgers filed a grievance against several teams for not spending the shared monies of the luxury taxes as intended.
Okay, fair enough. A not totally correct statement about buying up the talent. The Yankees are able to keep the talent they have when it comes to paying the big contracts. Teams like the Royals have to deal their players as they become expensive and attempt to rebuild.

The Yankees and teams like them simply reload, the Royals and teams like them must rebuild. Some of the resentment is from watching the Royals be used as a farm team for the rest of the league in the 1990s and 2000s.
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BigRedChief 01:42 PM 10-06-2019
CARDINALS LINEUP

1. Dexter Fowler cf

2. Kolten Wong 2b

3. Paul Goldschmidt 1b

4. Marcell Ozuna lf

5. Yadier Molina c

6. Matt Carpenter 3b

7. Tommy Edman rf

8. Paul DeJong ss

9. Waino P
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Marcellus 02:43 PM 10-06-2019
Keep feeding me crow Marp.
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BigRedChief 03:29 PM 10-06-2019
They have barely missed 3 home runs off Waino. We have 1 hard hit ball for an out. Bats need to show up. Waino ain’t pitching no shut out.
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Marcellus 03:34 PM 10-06-2019
Ye we need som runs quick. Waino is up to 79 pitches through 5, he may 1 more inning in hm.
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BigRedChief 03:39 PM 10-06-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Ye we need som runs quick. Waino is up to 79 pitches through 5, he may 1 more inning in hm.
coming up on 3rd time through the lineup too.
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Jewish Rabbi 03:52 PM 10-06-2019
What it do baby! Hell of a start by Waino.
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