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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Well shit. New GM means back to completely guessing again.
Dante84 10:36 PM 06-22-2017
We finally had a read on what Dorsey liked and had an idea as to who might fit within the constructs of his vision.

I think we all (mostly) felt really confident that we would get a solid haul with Dorsey steering the ship. This has been the most fun regime for me, as far as Chiefs drafts go.

I hope we get someone who has a clue and an eye for talent. I'm afraid whatever we do will be a step sideways at best, or backwards at worst.

Thanks for the fun drafts, Dorsey.
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DaneMcCloud 03:37 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
The most successful head coaches in NFL history won championships.
His career isn't over
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DaneMcCloud 03:38 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
The most successful head coaches in NFL history won championships.
And they also had Hall of Fame QB's
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milkman 03:56 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
And they also had Hall of Fame QB's
It's a catch 22.

If you are something more than mediocre as a QB, you are nearly a shoe-in to get elected.

John Hadl was a better QB than Joe Namath, but Joe Wiilie is in while Hadl is on the outside looking in.

On the other hand Jon Gruden won a SB with Brad Johnson, and Brian Billick won one with Brad Dilfer, while Andy failed with a hell of a defense with one of the best DCs ever, and Donavan McNabb at QB, who is a damn sight better than either of those scrubs.

Joe Gibbs won with 3 different QBs, none of whom will ever sniff the Hall, and Tom Flores won with Jim Plunkett.

Andy Reid's failure to win has more to do with his inability to manage the game and the clock than who he had at QB.

Had he overcome his own shortcomings, McNabb is likely a HoFer.
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DaneMcCloud 04:08 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
It's a catch 22.

If you are something more than mediocre as a QB, you are nearly a shoe-in to get elected.
So Drew Bledsoe, Trent Green, Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselbeck, Ken O'Brien, Vinnie Testaverde, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Kerry Collins and Tony Romo are HOF candidates?

At this point in time, I'd have to disagree.
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milkman 04:12 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
So Drew Bledsoe, Trent Green, Matt Ryan, Matt Hasselbeck, Ken O'Brien, Vinnie Testaverde, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Kerry Collins and Tony Romo are HOF candidates?

At this point in time, I'd have to disagree.
I am pretty sure you had to know I was talking about QBs that won SBs.

Eli Manning, however, is almost certainly a shoe in.
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DaneMcCloud 04:46 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
I am pretty sure you had to know I was talking about QBs that won SBs.
No. My apologies.

Originally Posted by milkman:
Eli Manning, however, is almost certainly a shoe in.
I agree but it's ironic that he is HOF bound, considering the Giants fan base has been wanting to replace him for years.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 05:46 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Tool? You're a fucking low life methhead moron that's been banned multiple time, renounced your "fandom", then decided to be a "fan" again this year.

That's a fucking tool.



He's 11-12 postseason and coached in a Super Bowl. Why hasn't he won more frequently?

He's never had a Hall of Fame QB.
I would say that the crying bitch antics of a "leaving forever"-tool who then turns right around to come on back definitely puts you in a very special tool class.
I would also say that crying about Clay non-stop definitely elevates your toolness to the highest levels attainable at CP.
And then there's that pesky fucking Quarterback whom you can't seem to decide rates franchise material one day, then mediocre FAIL-machine the next.

And if Reid's never had a HOF QB, he might be wise to let someone else do the picking( which he did, thank God )if the best he can come up with is Alex fucking Smith to inaugurate his run as a Chief.

Later, tool box.
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DaneMcCloud 05:56 PM 07-08-2017
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
I would say that the crying bitch antics of a "leaving forever"-tool who then turns right around to come on back definitely puts you in a very special tool class.
I would also say that crying about Clay non-stop definitely elevates your toolness to the highest levels attainable at CP.
And then there's that pesky fucking Quarterback whom you can't seem to decide rates franchise material one day, then mediocre FAIL-machine the next.

And if Reid's never had a HOF QB, he might be wise to let someone else do the picking( which he did, thank God )if the best he can come up with is Alex fucking Smith to inaugurate his run as a Chief.

Later, tool box.
Go fuck yourself, over and over and over and over.

No one gives a shit about you.
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Black Bob 09:48 AM 07-09-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Andy Reid is FAR more important than any GM, including Dorsey
I agree. We aren't gonna have this kind of talent around again for a while - Dorsey or no Dorsey.
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