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Nzoner's Game Room>MELLINGER: Should The Chiefs Move On From Smith?
OnTheWarpath15 12:35 PM 01-17-2017
Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.

Originally Posted by :
The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.

Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”

And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:

Get to the Super Bowl.

And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.

This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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notorious 02:49 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by O.city:
I've been in that mood as well. ****.

I took my aggression out on those 12 teeth I extracted Monday am. I ripped the ****ers out like a damn bandaid.

****
JFC


Note to self: Do not see dentist on a Monday or Tuesday....Ever.
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O.city 02:50 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by notorious:
JFC


Note to self: Do not see dentist on a Monday or Tuesday....Ever.
Yeah, by Wednesday and Thursday I'm ready for the weekend so that's no bueno either.
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notorious 02:53 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah, by Wednesday and Thursday I'm ready for the weekend so that's no bueno either.
Sooooo, is the off season, on a Tuesday, before the draft a safe time?


You have a tight window.
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O.city 02:57 PM 01-17-2017
Probably best.
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BigCatDaddy 03:02 PM 01-17-2017
It is a must at this point. 15 TDs? 15? Fif fucking teen!
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KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 03:02 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
What the hell does vision have to do with it? HE'S LOOKING RIGHT AT HILL! Right the **** at him. Sees him the whole way.

That's not bad vision, that's straight up ****ing cowardice.
I was referring to other games where Alex locks in on one receiver and never sees the other receivers that are wide open. I agree with you that on this play he just shits his pants and runs like a school girl.
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KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 03:05 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The Alex Smith Deep Ball Myth:

Spoiler!
Should have been hands to the face penalty on Harrison there, you can see Kelce's head turn to the side.
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Mr. Laz 03:05 PM 01-17-2017
A team should always be looking to upgrade their QB position unless they have an Aaron Rodger-esque player.

It's why I've been pissed that Andy Reid hasn't appeared too eager to develop one. We passed on a few guys in the draft and we've cut almost all the guys we did draft. Bray has hung around because he was easy to keep on IR most of the time.
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gold_and_red 03:10 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
A team should always be looking to upgrade their QB position unless they have an Aaron Rodger-esque player.

It's why I've pissed that Andy Reid hasn't appeared too eager to develop one. We passed on a few guys in the draft and we've cut almost all the guys we did draft. Bray has hung around because he was easy to keep on IR most of the time.
In another thread I mentioned Reid's resolve to draft and groom a rookie given he is 58 and has nothing to prove in the W-L column during regular season. Maybe he truly believes that Smith is his best chance to go back to a SB in which case he should separate himself from the playcalling.
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The Franchise 03:12 PM 01-17-2017
What we saw from Smith this year is what he is going to be moving forward. He's not going to throw the ball more. He's not going to run more. He peaked last year.....and now he's on the downhill slide.
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DJ's left nut 03:21 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
What we saw from Smith this year is what he is going to be moving forward. He's not going to throw the ball more. He's not going to run more. He peaked last year.....and now he's on the downhill slide.
Yup. That's probably accurate.

To whatever extent Alex Smith may have been capable of winning a Super Bowl at one time, he no longer is.

We saw him get more and more skittish this year in the pocket. His arm certainly won't be getting better and I see no reason to believe he's ever going to learn any more of the offense.

So we've seen a guy who understands this offense as well as he ever will getting shell-shocked and physically declining.

There's nowhere to go but down from here with Alex Smith. Time to move on.
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Mr. Laz 03:34 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
What we saw from Smith this year is what he is going to be moving forward. He's not going to throw the ball more. He's not going to run more. He peaked last year.....and now he's on the downhill slide.
I would agree if Smith had performed the same all the time.

Look at the Pittsburgh game:

2 good drives to start the game with Smith looking smooth and like an upper tier type QB.

Then nothing but crap until the 4th quarter

4 quarter we are behind and suddenly the offense opens up and Smith looks better again.

This same pattern has happened over and over again all season long.


Get a lead, shut it down until we get behind and have to open it up again.


Now the question is, Does Andy Reid shut the offense down because he doesn't think Alex Smith can run an open offense for an entire game OR does Reid do it because he has some Schottenheimer in him?

Play calling is shit and that keeps us from knowing whether Smith can be the 'Good Smith' for an entire game or not.

Alex Smith is not an elite quarterback, never will be. We should continually be looking for a replacement in the draft. Our play calling still makes the situation worse.
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O.city 03:35 PM 01-17-2017
I can't shit on play calling when we see gifs like the one above.

I'm more inclined to think the play calling is what it is because of alex
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The Franchise 03:37 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by Mr. Laz:
I would agree if Smith had performed the same all the time.

Look at the Pittsburgh game:

2 good drives to start the game with Smith looking smooth and like an upper tier type QB.

Then nothing but crap until the 4th quarter

4 quarter we are behind and suddenly the offense opens up and Smith looks better again.

This same pattern has happened over and over again all season long.


Get a lead, shut it down until we get behind and have to open it up again.


Now the question is, Does Andy Reid shut the offense down because he doesn't think Alex Smith can run an open offense for an entire game OR does Reid do it because he has some Schottenheimer in him?

Play calling is shit and that keeps us from knowing whether Smith can be the 'Good Smith' for an entire game or not.

Alex Smith is not an elite quarterback, never will be. We should continually be looking for a replacement in the draft. Our play calling still makes the situation worse.
Think about it. Alex Smith is the one shutting down the offense. He literally won't do shit until his back is against the wall. Hence the come from behind in Week 1 and what you saw against Pittsburgh in the 4th quarter. He has no choice but to make tough throws. If it's a close game....he's so fucking scared that he's going to make a mistake....that he fucking shuts down and goes fetal.
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Mr. Laz 03:39 PM 01-17-2017
Originally Posted by O.city:
I can't shit on play calling when we see gifs like the one above.

I'm more inclined to think the play calling is what it is because of alex
So then it's just a coincidence that throughout the entire season the same pattern has occurred.

start the game - good offense,good smith

middle of the game - shit offense,shit smith

End of the game with the lead - shit offense,shit smith

End of the game without the lead - good offense,good smith

All year long we have shut down our offense after getting a lead.


That's absolutely on Reid.
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