Yep, another Alex Smith thread - but a solid and fair read from Sam Mellinger.
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The only way forward is through brutal honesty and realistic self-evaluation. No sport moves as quickly, or with such little empathy, as the NFL.
Only fools assume what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future, unless that assumption is “the Patriots will win every year from now until armageddon because Bill Belichick is an alien.”
And so it is that this particular group of Chiefs players and executives attempt to solve a puzzle that no group of Chiefs players and executives has solved since 1970, which is so long ago CBS erased the tape to save money:
Get to the Super Bowl.
And it’s hard to believe that will happen without addressing the quarterback situation.
This is not a call for the Chiefs to walk away from Alex Smith, even though this is the first offseason since his arrival in which they could do it without a fatal salary cap hit. This is a call for them to look, to try, to make sure they don’t have access to a better option — whether that’s Tony Romo in a trade, Deshaun Watson in the draft (which would almost certainly require a trade up), or anything else.
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Its time. Not that Alex hasn't done his job, but he was always a stop-gap.
You've drafted Travis Kelce, Marcus Peters, Tyreek Hill, Dee Ford and Chris Jones in recent years. You have to surround that young talent with the most crucial piece.
Thanks Alex, you did what you were suppose to, but KC needs a franchise QB.
Great way to look at it.
Smith was an immediate band-aid designed to bring the team back to respectability. He's killed the playoff monkey, he's led a team to a division championship in a legitimate tough division. He's played adequately enough to allow for the development of young players like Kelce, Hill and (yes) Fisher.
He's done his job and now it's time to get it over the hump. Go get your last piece of the puzzle, the guy that can keep this window open for 5+ more years. The team is respectable. It's a team you don't want to see on your schedule. Teams look at the Chiefs game each year and at worst figure they'll have a fight on their hands. He's set us up nicely to move forward and now its time to do exactly that.
I think that's a fair way to look at it. Much fairer than my "jesus tapdancing christ how did he not throw that goddamn football!?!?!" approach. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
Someone should look up Smith's QB rating against division opponents over the last 3 seasons. Anyone want to guess the over/under on 95?
The reason you're picking these individual irrelevant stats like this is because his overall stats are shit and show him as the mediocre dope we all know he is. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
Kelce has the most productive season as a tight end and you want to replace the guy throwing him the football?
And let's all agree now that Dee Ford at best, is an average OLB over the course of an entire season.
Its not about 'replacing Alex' to me. Its about finding our guy that can always have us in contention, even if our defense isn't loaded with talent or we aren't stocked with weapons.
Right now, we have to be damn near perfect to win a playoff game. Its how it is when you are trying to win a championship with a game manager.
I'll never be a Alex hater and I never have been, but KC deserves more. Too much talent going to waste. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
The Chiefs are arguably the best team in the league, guys 2-53. But look at the teams that are left.
Atlanta is not talented on defense. GB is not very talented anywhere but OL.
Having that franchise QB will ALWAYS give you a chance. It doesn't matter if you have the best everything else or not.
For Smith to win a SB with Andy, we would need the defense to play at an all-time level.
The question was never "is it easier to win a SB with an elite QB", the question has always been "is it possible to win a SB without one".
I think the answer to the latter question is indisputably yes, but I think we've reached a point of diminishing returns with Smith where that job's just going to continue getting harder. The hill will get steeper next year for a Chiefs team with Smith under center, not smaller.
So it's time to change course. You can appreciate what Smith did to help bring the Chiefs back to respectability but you can also acknowledge that the margin for error just isn't big enough with him under center and it's going to get smaller as we advance. [Reply]
While we sit here and act as if Smith is the cause of or problems we forget it was undisciplined play by our OL (Jah Reid miss block, Morse holding penalty, Fisher holding penalty, LDT illegal man downfield), the missed passes by 5 receivers, West fumbling the ball before the half, Berry not helping Houston contain brown for a 52 yard gain that led to a FG...things that had far more reason for us losing the game than our QB.
We also forget that Charles sucked money out of this team doing nothing. Maclin was MIA despite being paid as one of the top receivers. Houston gave us 2 productive games out of a possible 17. Tamba is being paid 7 mil a year . Our run defense was one of the league's worst in ypc. Our running backs had 50% less touchdowns from season prior. Dee ford went missing.
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut:
While we sit here and act as if Smith is the cause of or problems we forget it was undisciplined play by our OL (Jah Reid miss block, Morse holding penalty, Fisher holding penalty, LDT illegal man downfield), the missed passes by 5 receivers, West fumbling the ball before the half, Berry not helping Houston contain brown for a 52 yard gain that led to a FG...things that had far more reason for us losing the game than our QB.
We also forget that Charles sucked money out of this team doing nothing. Maclin was MIA despite being paid as one of the top receivers. Houston gave us 2 productive games out of a possible 17. Tamba is being paid 7 mil a year . Our run defense was one of the league's worst in ypc. Our running backs had 50% less touchdowns from season prior. Dee ford went missing.
Bunch of morons on this forum.
Yeah it has zero to do with a $17 million dollar QB throwing for 15 TDs (along with 8 INTS....two of those losing us games).....all while missing wide open WRs because he's too much of a pussy to take a fucking hit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
The question was never "is it easier to win a SB with an elite QB", the question has always been "is it possible to win a SB without one".
I think the answer to the latter question is indisputably yes, but I think we've reached a point of diminishing returns with Smith where that job's just going to continue getting harder. The hill will get steeper next year for a Chiefs team with Smith under center, not smaller.
So it's time to change course. You can appreciate what Smith did to help bring the Chiefs back to respectability but you can also acknowledge that the margin for error just isn't big enough with him under center and it's going to get smaller as we advance.
Last 4 SB winners...
Denver Broncos ranked 16th in offensive yards/game
New England Pats ranked 11th in offensive yards/game
Seattle Seahawks ranked 17th in offensive yards/game
Baltimore Ravens ranked 16th in offensive yards/game
If this isn't convincing evidence that Defenses have predominately been the reason teams win the Lombardi... [Reply]