We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.
If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.
Would you rather pay Dee Ford $16 million for one year, hoping he repeats last year's production, and then you'll have to re-sign him for more than $16m on a longer deal (and he's 28 now.)
OR would you rather pay Trey Flowers $16 m a year for 4 or 5 years (he's 25, with no signifigant injury history)? He's a good run defender and a solid pass rusher so he helps in all facets of the game. His game is still ascending. He already knows and has played for our new DL coach. Plus his shiny new SB ring can make everyone jealous.
PLUS you'll get a #2 pick in the deal for trading Ford on the tag.
So-Flowers at 25 years old plus a #2 pick for Dee Ford, 27 years old, lengthy injury history, pass rush specialist and liability against the run
Just remember our Defense is already much improved just from the coaching turnover. Those new coaches are going to be hungry for performance from our players. [Reply]
Would you rather pay Dee Ford $16 million for one year, hoping he repeats last year's production, and then you'll have to re-sign him for more than $16m on a longer deal (and he's 28 now.)
OR would you rather pay Trey Flowers $16 m a year for 4 or 5 years (he's 25, with no signifigant injury history)? He's a good run defender and a solid pass rusher so he helps in all facets of the game. His game is still ascending. He already knows and has played for our new DL coach. Plus his shiny new SB ring can make everyone jealous.
PLUS you'll get a #2 pick in the deal for trading Ford on the tag.
So-Flowers at 25 years old plus a #2 pick for Dee Ford, 27 years old, lengthy injury history, pass rush specialist and liability against the run
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I think that's a decent option. I think dee is worth a 1st though. [Reply]
First of all you can't compete with Indy if they want Trey Flowers. Also who is trading a second round pick for Ford again? People here say he's too much of an injury risk to keep and then just assume someone will pay a second round pick for that risk? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
2 guys, one position. Both wildly expensive, both lengthy injury histories.
Houston is miscast as a 4-3 SAM, which won't rush the passer very often. Both really could only fit as RDE's. Neither is a LDE in a 4-3 where they're both too light by a long shot.
Both could be plus players as pass rushers from the RDE spot. Ford is a liability against the run there.
Certainly one of them is gone; and you could make an argument that you could replace one of them with a better suited, all around type player in FA.
Good way to look at it.
It may be which one can give you the best 1 year of performance and mentoring a young’n that team will almost certainly draft. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
First of all you can't compete with Indy if they want Trey Flowers. Also who is trading a second round pick for Ford again? People here say he's too much of an injury risk to keep and then just assume someone will pay a second round pick for that risk?
You can definitely compete if it's not all about money. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
First of all you can't compete with Indy if they want Trey Flowers. Also who is trading a second round pick for Ford again? People here say he's too much of an injury risk to keep and then just assume someone will pay a second round pick for that risk?
What if Indy thinks Dee Ford is the pass rusher they need to put them over the top? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I doubt it, but I'd be giddy if you're right. I would sign that paperwork so fast my signature would have scorch marks around it.
13 sacks, top 2 in pressures, 7 ff.
He's elite. That's the story we should stick with [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
What if Indy thinks Dee Ford is the pass rusher they need to put them over the top?
So Indy, also adapting into a 4-3, thinks Ford is going to put them over the top even though Ballard knows all about him? so people in this thread know more than Ballard?
I guess my point is, if Dee Ford is so valuable to Indy that Ballard (candidate for GM of the year) is willing to pay a high draft pick for him then my opinion is Ballard knows more than all of you and we should definitely keep Ford. [Reply]