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Nzoner's Game Room>Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT
Sofa King 01:40 PM 02-10-2021
Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)



https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt


It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.


If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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TEX 02:46 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
I'm saying that the Chiefs need to look at drafting or signing his replacement, because Damien shouldn't be in the plans after 2021
Makes sense for after 2021. Not for next season though IMO.
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htismaqe 02:47 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
It really doesn't matter. This is the simplest way for them to clear the money that they need to clear.

You got a better way? :-)
That's not the point.

It's not a way for them to clear that money at all. They can't cut them. It's not allowed.

So they'll have to find a better way or they have to HOPE the players oblige.

It's that simple.

I get you - I'd LOVE to get rid of both of them AND their cap hit. But you can't just cut injured players. The CBA doesn't allow it.
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TEX 02:48 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
They're probably going to have to do this as well as cut these two OTs.

Remember, cutting them only gets you barely below the cap.

I'd say you see Veach cut both OTs and do 2-3 deal restructures/extensions in order to bring in Brown and some other free agents.

This will be a fun offseason.

But make no mistake - getting rid of Fisher AND Schwartz will be the key.

And it will happen.
He'll figure something out. In Brian Veepe we trust!
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htismaqe 02:49 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Kman34:
Mitch will retire and yes I believe we will part ways with Fisher with an injury settlement.. Cap space will have to be made somehow and there too many health questions with these two..
I think Schwartz will retire as well but again, that's entirely up to him. The Chiefs can't force him to do anything.

As for Fisher, an injury settlement requires him to agree. So unless he AGREES to be cut and get paid for his injury, that won't happen.
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wazu 02:53 PM 02-10-2021
Pass
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Icon 02:58 PM 02-10-2021
This situation could work in our favor another way. Perhaps a team that needs a tackle that drafts in front of us will trade for Brown which increases the chance one of the blue chip tackles makes it to us at 31 in round one.
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Hammock Parties 03:06 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I get you - I'd LOVE to get rid of both of them AND their cap hit. But you can't just cut injured players. The CBA doesn't allow it.
Sure, sure. They'll both be gone.

This is the way.
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Hammock Parties 03:07 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by TEX:
He'll figure something out. In Brian Veepe we trust!
This is correct.

Veach will slash our offensive tackles.

And we will save eighteen million dollars.

This will happen.
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TomBarndtsTwin 03:23 PM 02-10-2021
Lol. Don't see the Ravens trading him to their biggest competition in the AFC and the team that is in the way of where they want to get to. The Chiefs would have to pay a FAR bigger price (draft pick wise) to get them to trade him here. The only team less likely for him to be traded to would probably be the Steelers.

That said, dude seems like he's all about the money, above all else. He doesn't sound very 'flexible' if the need were to arise. Like say, if Fish were to return and they wanted to kick him (brown) to the right side to take over for the injured (or possibly retired) Mitchell Schwartz. Not the kind of guy we need on our team.
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Sofa King 07:23 PM 02-10-2021
Lol
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Sassy Squatch 07:29 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Sofa King:
Lol

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Chief Roundup 08:12 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Extend Mathieu.
Extend Hill.
Restructure Mahomes.
Restructure Jones.

Want me to keep going?
You don't extend Hill until next year maybe. You don't restructure Mahomes when we are just entering the first year of his new deal. We just signed Jones you don't restructure him this soon either.
We could definitely Clark but they may want to move on from him after next year.
We will not be on the hook, cap wise, for all of Fishers contract. The cap hit will only be on the games he plays and the prorated signing bonus.
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staylor26 08:12 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Didn’t mean to downvote.
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CoMoChief 09:24 PM 02-10-2021
I'm probably the least cap knowledgeable person on this board.

But if Veach could find a way to make this happen. I'd def be on board.

Chiefs need a LT for next year. It's that simple. Fisher will probably miss all of next season. Who knows about Schwartz. Either way...tackle desperately needs addressed this offseason.
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htismaqe 11:21 PM 02-10-2021
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
I'm probably the least cap knowledgeable person on this board.

But if Veach could find a way to make this happen. I'd def be on board.

Chiefs need a LT for next year. It's that simple. Fisher will probably miss all of next season. Who knows about Schwartz. Either way...tackle desperately needs addressed this offseason.
If you're trading for Brown, it's not for next year. It means you're replacing Fisher. Not sure they're ready to do that.
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