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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official Soccer Thread***
POND_OF_RED 10:14 AM 08-06-2021
Creating a new thread for soccer discussion since the Euro’s are done.

Most leagues are in preseason and Sporting KC are currently in a battle for the best record in the league to win the shield. We just sent Busio who’s a young Sporting youth academy player and possible future American star to Venezia to compete in the top division in Italy for a 6.5 million dollar transfer fee with up to $11 million with incentives and a 20% future sell-on rate if they sell him to another team. Not to mention another past youth academy player from Lee’s Summit and another possible World Cup starter Erik Palmer-Brown looks to be joining him at Venezia soon as well. If you’re looking for an Italian team to start rooting for with your new Paramount+ subscription they would be a good candidate with some local flavor.

The U.S has built a little power shift in the CONCACAF region with their wins over Mexico lately in Nations and Gold Cup finals and look to be in really good shape heading into the World Cup qualifiers next month.

Messi looks to be on the move as well. Let’s hope it’s not a worthless one to PSG for everyone’s sake.

Ok, CP feel free to remind me how gay soccer is now. Don’t care. Sporting is kicking ass and so is the USA. It’s a good time to be following along. Discuss…
Spoiler!

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|Zach| 07:29 PM 12-09-2023
This Malte Amundsen pass was perfect.

⚡️ TWO GOALS IN FOUR MINUTES. ⚡️

Yaw Yeboah has @ColumbusCrew cruising in #MLSCup pres. by Audi. pic.twitter.com/wZkgzfHoXL

— Major League Soccer (@MLS) December 9, 2023

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alpha_omega 08:13 PM 12-09-2023
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
Great match. Deserving champions.
Agreed. But the first goal…I hate the PK.
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|Zach| 08:25 PM 12-09-2023
Originally Posted by alpha_omega:
Agreed. But the first goal…I hate the PK.
It is a clear PK for me but I hate it happened in the final. Don't like the sequence of events I get it.
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Titty Meat 10:02 PM 12-09-2023
The currents new stadium looks very cool with the skyline in the background
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|Zach| 10:03 PM 12-09-2023
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
The currents new stadium looks very cool with the skyline in the background
I wish they would have made it a little bigger but they did a good with it. Excited to see it in action. Hope they put a quality team out for the fans.
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Titty Meat 10:05 PM 12-09-2023
Originally Posted by |Zach|:
I wish they would have made it a little bigger but they did a good with it. Excited to see it in action. Hope they put a quality team out for the fans.
It's amazing how the soccer teams are able to pull off things like this while the baseball team sputters. I totally expect SKC to put an impressive stadium downtown in about a decade
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|Zach| 10:18 PM 12-09-2023
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
It's amazing how the soccer teams are able to pull off things like this while the baseball team sputters. I totally expect SKC to put an impressive stadium downtown in about a decade
I doubt it but would be very cool.

It is a little easier when you are a smaller and more nimble club or league but yea its been fun to watch the sports grow and how exciting it is. Then you look at the Royals and its like....fuck this shit.
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|Zach| 10:12 PM 12-17-2023
Meanwhile in theLiga MX Apertura final. :-)

After getting a red card in the Liga MX final, Tigres goalkeeper Nahuel Guzman is currently hiding under a tarp near the field. TUDN cameras cut to him hiding and not leaving. #LigaMXeng https://t.co/23RBvogPoq

— Cesar Hernandez (@cesarhfutbol) December 18, 2023

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MarkDavis'Haircut 05:15 PM 12-26-2023
From a tweet by Yahoo! Sports... and counting only nationally televised games. The Yahoo! tweet only counts the Big Four plus MLS. But we know that the XFL and USFL both averaged 600,000 viewers each. For comparison:

NFL: 9.2 million
NBA: 711,000
NHL: 398,000
MLB: 378,000
MLS: 113,000


Spring football is more popular than the MLS.
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bdj23 05:19 PM 12-26-2023
Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut:
From a tweet by Yahoo! Sports... and counting only nationally televised games. The Yahoo! tweet only counts the Big Four plus MLS. But we know that the XFL and USFL both averaged 600,000 viewers each. For comparison:

NFL: 9.2 million
NBA: 711,000
NHL: 398,000
MLB: 378,000
MLS: 113,000


Spring football is more popular than the MLS.
I like soccer (more than your avg American at least) and I'll barely watch MLS.
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|Zach| 10:05 PM 12-26-2023
Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut:
From a tweet by Yahoo! Sports... and counting only nationally televised games. The Yahoo! tweet only counts the Big Four plus MLS. But we know that the XFL and USFL both averaged 600,000 viewers each. For comparison:

NFL: 9.2 million
NBA: 711,000
NHL: 398,000
MLB: 378,000
MLS: 113,000


Spring football is more popular than the MLS.
Maybe that league won't sputter and disband every few years but I won't hold my breath. There is a reason it is not considered when looking at numbers across the board.

SKC for example played just shy of 40 games across all competitions. The numbers have been just fine and are growing by every metric.

It is even growing in the metric of insecure constantly disappearing football league fans begging soccer fans for validation for some reason. :-)
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|Zach| 10:05 PM 12-26-2023
Originally Posted by bdj23:
I like soccer (more than your avg American at least) and I'll barely watch MLS.
You have a perfectly fine domestic league right in front of you.

The world needs front runners as well though. It takes all kinds of fans to make a sport.
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POND_OF_RED 08:25 AM 12-27-2023
It’s definitely time to push Garber out. Such a critical time for the league. You have a small window with the biggest star in the game and you still put limits on the spending. Let the owners compete or get pushed out at this point. It’s a joke. Garber’s a joke. This sums up the current state of the league quite nicely.


Let’s summarize the state of the league after the news yesterday..

I’ve been following MLS for about 15 years. For 90% of that time, I’ve been defensive of the methods that the league has employed because I understood their necessity.

Low salary caps, tight spending.. it all… pic.twitter.com/zMp9pgA5kV

— MLS Buzz (@MLS_Buzz) December 15, 2023


“Let’s summarize the state of the league after the news yesterday..

I’ve been following MLS for about 15 years. For 90% of that time, I’ve been defensive of the methods that the league has employed because I understood their necessity.

Low salary caps, tight spending.. it all made sense 10-15 years ago. Teams were on the verge of collapse still. Chivas USA wasnt that long ago.

But right now, here is where we stand..

• Soccer is popular. More people watch soccer (Liga MX & Premier League) than hockey. MLS is no longer existing in an America that hates soccer, quite the opposite.
• We have 30 very stable clubs. The expansion era is mostly behind us. “Growth” in that respect is nearing its limit.
• Most every club has their own stadium and training facilities. The biggest expenditures are behind the league.
• MLS has one of the richest collection of owners on the planet. Most every owner is worth billions
• MLS is partnered with the most innovative and powerful tech company in the history of planet earth
• The greatest player in the history of the sport chose to come play here and has brought more attention to the league than ever
• We are about to have 3 straight summers of massive international (club and country) soccer tournaments played in the USA

And yet, MLS refuses to allow clubs to increase spending in the slightest. We get Premier League season ticket prices while watching squads built on a League One budget. We will still be performing miracles if we can wil Champions Cup, despite having 10 teams in the tournament, but that’s okay because we’ll have another gimmick Leagues Cup tournament where we pull Mexican clubs out of their country for a month and treat Club America and Chivas like the Harlem Globetrotters.

The fact that MLS has refused to budge even in the slightest in a time as ripe as this is incredibly demoralizing. Maybe the changes in 2025 will be more in the direction of what we’re looking for, but honestly, what reason has the league given anyone to think that will happen?”
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MarkDavis'Haircut 08:43 AM 12-27-2023
Premier League is amazing soccer.

The MLS is crap.
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Fansy the Famous Bard 08:53 AM 12-27-2023
Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut:
Premier League is amazing soccer.

The MLS is crap.
Fertilizing the ground is what mls has done. It's fertilized, and yet it doesn't allow the garden to grow for some reason. Read the above tweet by POR and you may understand why.
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