Self is not losing his job over this that’s absurd.

That is the ugliest scene we have seen in awhile. There needs to be consequences at both schools, serious ones.

De Sousa could seriously hurt someone with a chair the way he was wielding it. Any man that big and strong could. Thankfully for all parties involved that did not happen. There were fans that could have easily been hurt.

Kst’s season was already DOA KU OTOH put a lot in jeopardy.

Self and Weber will make their bones in how they respond to this making some hard decisions. I would imagine the league will be involved as well.
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There is 50-50 equal blame to this one. De Sousa, McCormick, Antonio Gordon and James Love should all get suspensions. De Sousa picking up the stool was an awful look, and he’s fortunate that didn’t go any further. I’m guessing his suspension will be the most harsh, along with James Love (guy in street clothes). James Love has logged around 100 minutes of game time in 3+ years at K-State. His suspension is meaningless.

Bottom line: if you are getting your ass kicked, get out of the gym as quick as you can. DeJuan Gordon made a huge mistake, but the reaction that followed was pretty fucked up. Just disgraceful all the way around by both Programs
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Well that was entertaining..
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The Kansas State-Kansas brawl, as called by "J.R." Jim Ross pic.twitter.com/oflPWzPVHM

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) January 22, 2020

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I was fine with the block. If you steal the ball in that situation, don’t expect an easy layup.

Had Silvio stared him down while walking away, then that probably would’ve been fine. He went too far though. Especially since he had to walk over to Gordon to state him down.
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I shouldn't even feed the trolls, but whatever.

Oh yeah, you stupid fuck? What about the dude that dropped a bow on Tyler Handsjob's face? If Allen is "very flawed very mental non nba mentally ill player" so is De Sousa. And nobody dropped a bow on Tyler Handsjob even when he took 6 ridiculous charges vs 0 blocks called in a fucking Final Four game. And that bow was worse than anything the Morris twins ever did by a longshot. You're reaching here, douche.

And who gives a flying fuck about NBA players? Are you trying to make the point for us that you pay players more than we do? If you're going to make the case that Kazoo is better than Self at least wave the championship flag. That's at least a cogent argument. You can't even troll right, you dumb mother fucker.

No argument here. It was bullshit on both sides.
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Awkward they brought both teams back out to finish out the last second for gambling purposes.
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Oh, the block was awesome, and totally what you should do. Everything after that was all bad. Both sides.
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KU has everything to lose. KSU has nothing to lose.

Sigh.
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A lot of dumb posts in this thread. :-)
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Anyway, back to reality.

https://theathletic.com/1552828/2020...ource=boxscore

It's the athletic, so there is a paywall, but the author makes comparisons to Legarett Blount, who's career was done after a fight. He also pointed out that Miles Garrett's season was done after the Rudolph thing (editorial note: I've seen that comparison several times RE: Desousa, and for the love of god nobody has the details right. Garrett ripped off Rudolph's helmet and tried to beat him with it). That's a pretty tenuous argument.

I looked up the suspensions for the Xavier/Cincinnati brawl. That's the last time I remember anything like that happening. Looks like 6 games was the longest look for Cincinnati and 4 for Xavier . Both coaches and several administrators had pretty hard words for the incident, which I anticipate Self and Weber will too - in addition to what they've already done. It seems like 6 and 4 is short for as big of a loss of control as that was, so it wouldn't surprise me if DeSousa ended up with more. 4-6 for McCormack. I really can't tell who else was doing any fighting or trying to pull players apart, so who the hell knows.

But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up with more than what the Xavier/Cincinnati guys got, especially since DeSousa isn't getting minutes and he can plant his flag on the higher standard hill.
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Did that affect the line?

Am I remembering right that they put 0:00.1 back on the clock? If I'm the officials there is no way I look at the video and determine the clock definitely did not hit 0.

Weird and stupid approach by whomever drove that decision.
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None of my KSU guys talk basketball. Surely KSU is under performing this year. Weber has no chance at getting dumped here?
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Not sure but KSU made a free throw so possibly.
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