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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Are you going to take the vaccine?
GloryDayz 08:48 AM 12-01-2020
I know I'm going to try to be first in line, but what about the rest of you? I'm not sure if the death count is where the science community wants it to be, plus Birdbrain hasn't been sworn in, so I expect there will be delays, but that's beside the point.

You can be honest.
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Mizzou_8541 07:44 AM 04-07-2021
Got my second shot yesterday. I feel fine! Just a little tired. I did this KNOWING I was part of a massive global depopulation effort, but I’m enjoying my free embedded 6G. I feel like it was a fair trade off.
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duncan_idaho 07:46 AM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by Graystoke:
Got my second dose of pfizer on Monday.
I felt like shit for 32 hours.
That stinks. One of the more extreme reactions I've heard about. Most folks seem to have 6-8 hours of reaction to dose 2 of Pfizer.

Had you had COVID before? I've seen some things that suggest prior COVID infection can lead to a more severe response by your immune system.

I talked to my docs before dose 2 and was encouraged to take tylenol and benadryl OTC prophylactically if I wanted.

Neither affects the vaccine itself, but they do help your body deal with the effects as it starts building its defenses. That seemed to help a lot. I got super tired but otherwise was unaffected.
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duncan_idaho 08:39 AM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
"What is the hardest thing of all? That which seems the easiest. For your eyes to see, that which lies before your eyes."
- Goethe
"Why look for conspiracy when stupidity can explain so much?"

(Also Goethe)
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Monticore 09:18 AM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
How accurate is PCR?

It's not a "test"; it's a process: "PCR is just a process that's used to make a whole lotta somethin' outta somethin'. It doesn't tell you that you're sick and it doesn't tell you that the thing you ended up with was gonna hurt you or anything like that." - Kary Mullis
My friend is a lab tech and says it is very accurate.
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banyon 10:33 AM 04-07-2021
Some good info circulating out there...

Right-wing conspiracy theorist Steve Quayle warns Jim Bakker's audience that nasal tests for COVID-19 are part of a plan to obtain DNA samples to be used in the creation of targeted biological weapons that will turn everyone into flesh-eating zombies. https://t.co/pqRDC84cCn pic.twitter.com/Fd0BVGonAY

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) April 6, 2021

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Just Passin' By 10:40 AM 04-07-2021
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Europe’s drug regulator on Wednesday found a possible link between AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine and rare blood clotting issues in adults who had received the shot and said it had taken into consideration all available evidence.

“One plausible explanation for the combination of blood clots and low blood platelets is an immune response, leading to a condition similar to one seen sometimes in patients treated with heparin,” the European Medicines Agency (EMA) said.

The findings come as a major hurdle in the global fight against the pandemic and a shift in the stance of the regulator, which had last week backed the vaccine and said there was no increased risk of blood clots in general from the shot...
EU drug regulator finds link between AstraZeneca vaccine and blood clots
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banyon 10:40 AM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
"Why look for conspiracy when stupidity can explain so much?"

(Also Goethe)
Level Up retort
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SuperBowl4 07:52 PM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541:
Got my second shot yesterday. I feel fine! Just a little tired. I did this KNOWING I was part of a massive global depopulation effort, but I’m enjoying my free embedded 6G. I feel like it was a fair trade off.
U did it 4 the greater good:-)
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SuperBowl4 07:55 PM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by banyon:
Some good info circulating out there...

the CDC has a zombie preparedness page on their web site so it’s not that far fetched ->http://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm
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eDave 08:01 PM 04-07-2021
"BEP is cray cray whack."

- Dave
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SuperBowl4 08:04 PM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
Okay, I read up on him. What's your point?
Mullis said Fauci doesn’t know anything about anything. That’s the point:-)
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banyon 09:50 PM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by SuperBowl4:
the CDC has a zombie preparedness page on their web site so it’s not that far fetched ->http://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm
Yeah but the CDC page was a joke. Those people think they are serious.
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jdubya 11:10 PM 04-07-2021
Fraudci would make a great weather reporter. “This weekend expect sunny skies with warm temperatures unless of course there are periodic snowstorms with hail, sleet and snow.”
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banyon 11:24 PM 04-07-2021
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Fraudci would make a great weather reporter. “This weekend expect sunny skies with warm temperatures unless of course there are periodic snowstorms with hail, sleet and snow.”
I will challenge you with the same question I posed earlier that went unsurprisingly unanswered: What has Fauci been so wrong about besides the mask thing from last March which has been explained? I get that the right has constructed this caricature, but what are the specifics?
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HonestChieffan 05:21 AM 04-08-2021
https://nypost.com/2021/01/24/dr-fau...stakes-devine/

In his inauguration speech, President Biden pledged to "defend the truth and to defeat the lies."

So let’s start by being brutally honest about Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has been the source of some of the most damaging misinformation about COVID-19.

At the very least, the nation’s top infectious diseases expert and chief medical adviser to Biden is loose with the facts and is prone to changing his mind.

This is the man who dictated coronavirus policy in the Trump administration. If mistakes were made, as the Biden administration claims, they are Fauci’s.

Yet, astonishingly, Fauci told CNN Friday that a "lack of candor" from the Trump administration had cost American lives.

If people’s lives really were at stake last year, why did he wait until now to tell us?

Chalk it up to another convenient fib from a habitual fibber, who has deceived us on everything from masks to herd immunity.

Even if you decide these are not lies but lapses of judgment by Fauci, they had potentially lethal consequences.

Take, for instance, Fauci’s serenity back on Jan. 21 last year, when he assured us that the virus convulsing China at the time "is not something the citizens of the United States should be worried about."

To be fair, the pandemic caught a lot of people unaware, but the thing about Fauci is that he always is so sure of himself.

The following week, he was at it again, vehemently opposing President Donald Trump’s proposed flight ban from China, which Biden at the time decried as "xenophobia."

It was Jan. 28, and Trump had asked his trade adviser, Peter Navarro, into the Situation Room to convince Fauci and other officials that the China travel ban would save lives.

"The guy I fought the most that day was Fauci," Navarro told me Sunday. "He was adamantly opposed to the travel ban. All he kept saying was travel restrictions don’t work."

Navarro pushed back, " ‘If you stop 20,000 Chinese nationals coming in every day and some are infected, you’re telling me that’s not going to spread the virus?’ It was like talking to a brick wall."

The next day, Navarro wrote a memo outlining three options: If you do nothing and there’s no danger, that’s OK; if you do the travel ban and there’s no danger, you lose a few million dollars; but if you do nothing and there is danger, the risk is a million American lives and more than $2 trillion in damages.

"I papered everybody in the task force with the memo and . . . it flipped everyone to supporting the president," Navarro said.

Trump imposed the travel ban on Jan. 31 and Fauci later credited the action with saving lives.

But, says Navarro, "If Biden had been president and Fauci had been the top adviser, we would probably have a million more Americans dead."

Then there was Fauci’s advice on masks.

Back in March, when the coronavirus was decimating New York, he told us masks were useless.

"Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks," he told "60 Minutes."

Three months later, he did a backflip: "Masks work . . . to prevent you from infecting someone else . . . but also, it can protect you to a certain degree."

Posing by his pool in sunglasses and novelty socks last June, Fauci told InStyle magazine he had no regrets about lying:

"We were told . . . we have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs and masks for health providers [and decided] we really need to save the masks for the people who need them most."

It was a noble lie, so he didn’t feel the need to apologize or even be slightly ashamed.

But nothing was more corrosive of public trust in medical experts at the height of the pandemic.

If Fauci lied about masks, what else would he lie about?

Turns out he lied about herd immunity, too.

In December, Fauci admitted to the New York Times that he had "slowly but deliberately been moving the goalposts" on the percentage of the population that needed to be vaccinated before "herd immunity" against *COVID-19 was reached.

"When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent. Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,’ so I went to 80, 85," he said.

Fauci is not precise with numbers, which is odd for a scientist who professes to care about facts.

For instance, on Biden’s first day last week, Fauci said we would have "100 million people vaccinated in the first 100 days" and specified he meant both "primary and boost" shots, a total of 200 million shots in arms.

On Sunday, he was forced to "clarify that, because there was a little bit of a misunderstanding. What we’re talking about is 100 million shots in individuals."

The 100 million goal is fake anyway since we’re already there. In the week before the inauguration, 912,000 shots were administered per day, according to Bloomberg News’ tracker. On Inauguration Day, it was 1.6 million shots.

Fauci last week gushed about how "liberating" it was to work for Biden now. "One of the new things in this administration is: If you don’t know the answer, don’t guess. Just say you don’t know the answer."

That would suit Fauci because, for an expert, he never seems to know the answer to anything.
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