Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
The Kansas Department of Health and Environment says Kansas has 270 COVID-19 related deaths, 6 more than Friday, June 26, and 14,443 positive cases, which is 905 more cases than Friday. [Reply]
Riley County Public Health officials say the county jumped 15 cases since Sunday, June 28, bringing the county total up to 222 positive cases of COVID-19.
The Riley County Health Department says the county has 3 COVID-19 related deaths, 135 active cases and 85 recovered. The majority of patients, according to the Department, have been between the ages of 18 and 35.
The Health Department says that due to younger people tending to have less severe cases, none of the new patients are currently hospitalized.
Ascension Via Christi Hospital in Manhattan says it has one positive patient who is on a ventilator and one inpatient person under investigation.
Riley Co. Public Health Officials said one additional employee at Riley County Emergency Medical Services has tested positive for a total of seven positives associated with that particular outbreak. Two pending results came back negative and one more has been tested. Riley Co. says results will be shared when available and any patients transported by EMS staff that later tested positive will be contacted by the Health Department.
The County is urging those with symptoms of COVID-19 to call the Screening Hotline to speak with a nurse at 785-323-6400. [Reply]
She didn't even give a timeline. Sounds like it was pretty off-the-cuff. Texas isn't on the quarantine list for KS yet we all need to wear masks and we aren't seeing any surges??? Again, just the same old shit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Yeah..looks a like a bit over 40 for the month. A little over 1 a day with a median age of 79.
Okay. As I said before, I don't know how that's relevant. The cases are trending up in Kansas towards the very end of the month. The governor decides to implement something to curb the growth in the number of cases.
We know this thing is exponential. The only way to prevent an explosion like some other countries and states in the US have had is to stomp it out early. I hope you understand the way exponential growth works. It's relatively flat in the beginning and then it's not. And it doesn't grow "steady." Eventually, it goes up in a straight line.
This virus kills people with preexisting conditions and the elderly at an alarmingly high rate.
Why would any person not want to protect those demographics in their community is something I am not able to grasp.
I am not even talking about the otherwise-healthy people who would die as a result of an unmitigated case explosion.
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Has challenge testing the various vaccines in development been discussed here yet? It seems like an option that should really be considered. You take a group of volunteers, administer vaccine and placebo within the group, then subject them all to the virus and observe. It accelerates the testing process exponentially and is ethical when conducted correctly.
Originally Posted by Pants:
Okay. As I said before, I don't know how that's relevant. The cases are trending up in Kansas towards the very end of the month. The governor decides to implement something to curb the growth in the number of cases.
We know this thing is exponential. The only way to prevent an explosion like some other countries and states in the US have had is to stomp it out early. I hope you understand the way exponential growth works. It's flat and then it's not. And it doesn't grow "steady."
This virus kills people with preexisting conditions and the elderly at an alarmingly high rate.
Why would any person not want to protect those demographics in their community is something I am not able to grasp.
I am not even talking about the otherwise-healthy people who would die as a result of an unmitigated case explosion.
Can you please tell me your reasoning?
Deaths are at < 2 a day for the state of Ks
Hospitals are in no jeopardy at all right now.
I think the question is why she is coming out now with this and didn't even give a timeline. This seems to me to be because some of the areas such as JOCO didn't go along with her buddies across the state line.
I mean how in the fuck do you call for masks and quarantine other states but not Texas? It just doesn't come off as very well thought out. [Reply]
It also figures, after spring soccer was canceled my Son was supposed to start summer soccer on Monday. That probably just got axed. Having him wear a mask is one thing. Having him wear one while he is running up and down a soccer field doesn't seem very smart. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pants:
Okay. As I said before, I don't know how that's relevant. The cases are trending up in Kansas towards the very end of the month. The governor decides to implement something to curb the growth in the number of cases.
We know this thing is exponential. The only way to prevent an explosion like some other countries and states in the US have had is to stomp it out early. I hope you understand the way exponential growth works. It's relatively flat in the beginning and then it's not. And it doesn't grow "steady." Eventually, it goes up in a straight line.
This virus kills people with preexisting conditions and the elderly at an alarmingly high rate.
Why would any person not want to protect those demographics in their community is something I am not able to grasp.
I am not even talking about the otherwise-healthy people who would die as a result of an unmitigated case explosion.
Can you please tell me your reasoning?
There's no point. Its the nothing more than the flu, only an issue because the media wants something to talk about, and only kills the olds so there is no reason for the rest of us to worry about it. [Reply]