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O.city 07:59 AM 11-30-2018
So after watching that cowboys saints game, holy shit the cowboys ILBs are just freak shows. Iím pretty sure thatís the best tandem in the league, jaylon is back healthy which is awesome cause heís a legit top 3 talent

But I think it also shows thatís where youíve gotta be strong in todayís nfl.

How can the chiefs get to that point? I think hitchens is a good player if you put someone that doesnít suck beside and in front of him.

Whoís draftable this year at ILB that can run?
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Direckshun 08:48 AM 11-30-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
So after watching that cowboys saints game, holy shit the cowboys ILBs are just freak shows. Iím pretty sure thatís the best tandem in the league, jaylon is back healthy which is awesome cause heís a legit top 3 talent

But I think it also shows thatís where youíve gotta be strong in todayís nfl.

How can the chiefs get to that point? I think hitchens is a good player if you put someone that doesnít suck beside and in front of him.

Whoís draftable this year at ILB that can run?
I'm going to agree -- I've said that I don't think the ILB position needs to be upgraded this summer, but I'm going to change that opinion a bit.

If there is a great, athletic ILB on the board, I think you think really hard about taking him.

Hitchens is cuttable after the 2019 season. It's still painful (8.4m dead cap), but he's cuttable. Which means you can take a gamble on a pure athlete at ILB and give them a year to groom behind O'Daniel.

I think the O'Daniel pick is looking better and better at this point, though he does have room to grow.

The age of the thumper is just about over.
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O.city 09:01 AM 11-30-2018
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
I'm going to agree -- I've said that I don't think the ILB position needs to be upgraded this summer, but I'm going to change that opinion a bit.

If there is a great, athletic ILB on the board, I think you think really hard about taking him.

Hitchens is cuttable after the 2019 season. It's still painful (8.4m dead cap), but he's cuttable. Which means you can take a gamble on a pure athlete at ILB and give them a year to groom behind O'Daniel.

I think the O'Daniel pick is looking better and better at this point, though he does have room to grow.

The age of the thumper is just about over.
The thumper alone is dead. Look at these guys now though, theyíre not just athletes, they can play the run too.

Maybe reactionary, but I donít think you can have a good defense now without having 2 guys in the middle that can play all 3 downs really well.
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The Pest 11:14 AM 11-30-2018
I think Hitchens and O'Daniel can be a top 10 ILB group in the NFL. O'Daniel just needs more experience....which he's getting.
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O.city 11:25 AM 11-30-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
I think Hitchens and O'Daniel can be a top 10 ILB group in the NFL. O'Daniel just needs more experience....which he's getting.
Heís a little light

Bigger importance for those 2 is putting more dudes in front of them
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O.city 11:26 AM 11-30-2018
I think is kind of a chicken or egg thing too we’re running in to. Jones is super disruptive playing the way he does up front, but that leaves the linebackers susceptible sometimes

I don’t know what the best thing to do is
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The Pest 11:27 AM 11-30-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Heís a little light

Bigger importance for those 2 is putting more dudes in front of them
Which you have to keep in mind when looking at the Cowboy's LBs. Yeah they're fast and can tackle....but they're also being helped out immensely by that defensive line.

This is why we need to move to a 4-3 base defense like everyone has been screaming for a while now.
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O.city 11:44 AM 11-30-2018
Originally Posted by The Pest:
Which you have to keep in mind when looking at the Cowboy's LBs. Yeah they're fast and can tackle....but they're also being helped out immensely by that defensive line.

This is why we need to move to a 4-3 base defense like everyone has been screaming for a while now.
I donít disagree but Iím not sure thatís the ideal way
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R Clark 06:48 PM 11-30-2018
Direckshuns I think your spot on, at least I hope you are.those that are hammering on hitchens are going to be proven wrong.i don't watch a lot of cowboys games , but the ones I did he was impresssive. It was reported that he didn't miss a tackle last year, I know the nasayers will be 7-10 yards down yada yada , but I don't think that's been the story on him before he got here. He looked to me like a stud every time I got to watch him play.Was really pumped when I heard we got him. Like you I really think next year is going to be a treat.Also I think DOD is going to come on next year after spending a offseason in the program.
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BryanBusby 03:53 PM 12-04-2018
The Chiefs have to get better play on the DL is how you'd start. Bailey and Williams are fucking jags.

Just think how insane Dee Ford would be if they had any more capability to flush a QB out of the pocket. Dee Ford has to play out of his fucking mind for every single sack.
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Buehler445 07:03 AM 12-05-2018
I think you have to have a dude that’s big on your roster. If not, smart teams like the Cheatriots will just up and run power on you all game. They did that to some fools a few years ago. Got some slapstick at RB 5 TDs and cut him a couple weeks later.

Ultimately, you’d like to have a couple prime DJs back there. But that talent doesn’t come around every draft.
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