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Dante84 05:14 PM 01-23-2021
You gotta think Denver or Oakland would try and make it happen if they want to compete with KC and SD in the next 2 years.

And this from Detroit: pic.twitter.com/M0L46PzCw2

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2021

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duncan_idaho 07:44 AM 01-28-2021
Stafford in the right spot and with competent coaching has enough ability to be a nice QB. A top-10 type.

If he lands in Indy (which seems to be the preferred landing spot), I think he makes them a much bigger contender next year.

I haven't ever been a huge fan of Stafford's, but the guy is talented and has never had real support.

Indy would be the best OL and running back group he has had. The Colts need an upgrade at WR, but they have a bunch of cap space and could accomplish an upgrade through FA (Maybe brining Kenny Golladay or Allen Robinson to town?)(.
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Chris Meck 09:23 AM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
I dunno... I think Stafford is a lot of 'meh'. I know that he's been stuck in DET, but still. Great for him to get out, but I just don't know that he can take a team and lead them.
If he lands in Denver you'll change your mind very quickly.
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Pasta Little Brioni 10:15 AM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
If he lands in Denver you'll change your mind very quickly.
Mania ghosted this place quicker than Hammocks last date when Mahomes got on the scene. A career loser like Stafford isn't bringing him back.
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JimNasium 12:41 PM 01-28-2021
I wonder if the Saints might be a dark horse?
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staylor26 12:42 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by JimNasium:
I wonder if the Saints might be a dark horse?
Nope. They don’t have the cap space to make it work.
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Mecca 12:45 PM 01-28-2021
Schefter is saying Indy has made no move to even contact Detroit about Stafford.
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JimNasium 12:46 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Nope. They don’t have the cap space to make it work.
Even with a Brees retirement?
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Mecca 12:47 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by JimNasium:
Even with a Brees retirement?
They're like 100 mill over the cap, him retiring saves 20 of his 40 million due.
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JimNasium 12:48 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Mecca:
They're like 100 mill over the cap, him retiring saves 20 of his 40 million due.
Got it. Thanks!
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jettio 12:52 PM 01-28-2021
Stafford is super talented, but he accepts losing.

If he was more of a leader and was more competitive, the Lions would have had more success while he was there.

He might improve a team enough to lose a game on wildcard weekend.
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Hoopsdoc 12:52 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Schefter is saying Indy has made no move to even contact Detroit about Stafford.
Hmmmm....interesting if true.

They told Rivers they were moving on, which is what prompted his retirement.

Doing that tells me they’ve got some sort of plan in place. And if it’s not Stafford, I have no idea who it could be.
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RunKC 12:55 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Schefter is saying Indy has made no move to even contact Detroit about Stafford.
Denver
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ModSocks 12:56 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Denver
Don't do that to yourself, Stafford. You don't want to be in a division with Mahomes. Go somewhere where you have a chance at a division title.
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Megatron96 12:58 PM 01-28-2021
Top 15 QBs 2020 based on total yards:
Deshaun WatsonHOU
Patrick MahomesKC
Tom BradyTB
Matt RyanATL
Josh AllenBUF
Justin HerbertLAC
Aaron RodgersGB
Kirk CousinsMIN
Russell WilsonSEA
Philip RiversIND
Derek CarrLV
Matthew StaffordDET
Kyler MurrayARI
Jared GoffLAR
Ryan TannehillTEN

Top 15 QBs based on yds/att:
Deshaun WatsonHOU
Kirk CousinsMIN
Aaron RodgersGB
Patrick MahomesKC
Josh AllenBUF
Ryan TannehillTEN
Derek CarrLV
Ryan FitzpatrickMIA
Matthew StaffordDET
Philip RiversIND
Tom BradyTB
Teddy BridgewaterCAR
Russell WilsonSEA
Drew BreesNO
Nick MullensSF

Top 15 QBs based on QBR:
Aaron RodgersGB
Patrick MahomesKC
Josh AllenBUF
Ryan TannehillTEN
Ryan FitzpatrickMIA
Drew BreesNO
Lamar JacksonBAL
Russell WilsonSEA
Tom BradyTB
Baker MayfieldCLE
Derek CarrLV
Deshaun WatsonHOU
Justin HerbertLAC
Kyler MurrayARI
Matthew StaffordDET

Top 15 QBs based on Passer RTG:
Aaron RodgersGB
Deshaun WatsonHOU
Patrick MahomesKC
Josh AllenBUF
Ryan TannehillTEN
Drew BreesNO
Russell WilsonSEA
Kirk CousinsMIN
Tom BradyTB
Derek CarrLV
Lamar JacksonBAL
Justin HerbertLAC
Philip RiversIND
Matthew StaffordDET
Baker MayfieldCLE

Just a few examples of how stats don't really give you the whole picture. Unless anyone believes that both Aaron Rodgers and Deshaun Watson are really better QBs than Mahomes. Or that Kirk Cousins is really the 2nd best QB in the league.:-) Or that Ryan Tannehill is really the 4th best QB in the league. Which we already know damned well isn't true.

All facts aside, I think it's possible that Matt is now damaged goods. Too many different OCs, HCs, bad defenses, terrible losses,losing seasons, etc., may have wrecked any chance he might have at actually becoming the QB he flashed earlier in his career.

If he ends up on a team that actually has a decent offense/defense, and solid coaching, like IND/SFO, maybe we'll find out if he's really a top 10 QB.
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htismaqe 01:28 PM 01-28-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
It doesn't matter. We'll have to wait until next year, some people just have their minds made up.

When Stafford goes to a stable organization and wins, they'll all be surprised, but we won't.
Denver isn't a stable organization.

They don't actually have an owner right now because of the dispute.

Their operations head just promoted himself to avoid public embarrassment and hired a figurehead GM and then retained a HC that has shown he knows very little about building an offensive team.
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