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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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DaFace 12:10 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by Otter:
My brother had two negative tests over the summer after having basically all of the symptoms. He gave blood a few weeks ago and got a positive antibody test result, which suggests that he had it despite the negative tests.

There's no question that test reliability has been a huge issue with all of this.
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dirk digler 12:22 PM 11-17-2020

BREAKING—Pfizer has achieved the safety milestones for its #COVID19 vaccines (according to NYTimes conference). Details forthcoming. This is good sign.

— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) November 17, 2020

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htismaqe 12:29 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by Fish:
Dolly Parton is actually a pretty freaking awesome person. She's directly donated ~150,000,000 books to kids across the world too. As well as various other charities and programs.

https://imaginationlibrary.com/
Love her. She's just an incredible person.
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TLO 12:32 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:

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TLO 12:33 PM 11-17-2020
Fire up the EUA printer!!
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DaFace 12:34 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Sweden taking it on the chin again

Had hoped they wouldn’t

Damn
Looks like they're having to give up on the hands-off approach now, too.

Sweden resorts to its toughest virus restrictions yet after a spike in new cases https://t.co/SHe3fQcsYr

— Bloomberg (@business) November 16, 2020

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htismaqe 12:37 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by R Clark:
I am not a manufacturing guru but I ain’t buying yrs . I’ve been on to many fast pace projects that were a hellve a lot more complicated than making ppe and it didn’t take yrs .you got the money anything can be made to happen in damn near any time frame
Spot manufacturing PPE is one thing. Changing the manufacturing dynamic in this country absolutely will take years, if it can even be changed.
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TLO 12:53 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Fire up the EUA printer!!
Actually, screw that - let's do this instead.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/09/...d-19-vaccines/
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O.city 12:55 PM 11-17-2020
Should know pretty soon on the Oxford vax and whether it actually stops transmission which would be even better.
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jdubya 01:27 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Looks like they're having to give up on the hands-off approach now, too.

Interesting. Just yesterday a virologist on the radio was saying although Swedens cases were increasing, their death rates were steadily declining.
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htismaqe 01:40 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Should know pretty soon on the Oxford vax and whether it actually stops transmission which would be even better.
The Oxford vax is the one I'm most interested in.
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O.city 01:57 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Interesting. Just yesterday a virologist on the radio was saying although Swedens cases were increasing, their death rates were steadily declining.
Wife's family has a past foreign exchange student from there they keep in touch with.

She said they've had some restrictions but they feel like there aren't any elderly left, it ran thru them in the spring badly.
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DaFace 01:59 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by jdubya:
Interesting. Just yesterday a virologist on the radio was saying although Swedens cases were increasing, their death rates were steadily declining.
Not sure where they'd be getting that. There's clearly been a spike in the past couple of weeks, albeit not yet at the level seen in the spring.

https://covidly.com/graph?country=Sweden&state=#new


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Hawker007 02:02 PM 11-17-2020
What happens with these vaccines if the virus mutates? Can they still be effective, or are we back to the drawing board (or somewhere in between)?
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DaFace 02:06 PM 11-17-2020
Originally Posted by Hawker007:
What happens with these vaccines if the virus mutates? Can they still be effective, or are we back to the drawing board (or somewhere in between)?
I'm not a virologist, so don't take this to be an expert opinion, but...

From my understanding, the virus has already mutated many times and, thus far, they think that our current vaccines will cover it. For a specific example, look up the Danish mink outbreak and comments about vaccines related to that. In short, they still think we're good.

That doesn't mean that it will ALWAYS be that way, but it doesn't sound like it's a HUGE issue.
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