Rule: You can change your answer up until next Thursday!
This might be the toughest year yet for this. I can see so many different possibilities, especially considering that I think there's a solid chance the Chiefs trade up.
Edit: It's draft day and I'm changing my pick!
Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
There's way too much smoke about the Chiefs trading up and/or them targeting a LT. I'm going with a guy that I think could make it into our range, who also has the kind of upside that would have Veach itching to make a move to go get him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Guaranteed you saw a white WR on the smaller side and made up your mind instantly.
No. I made up my mind based on how average his numbers were playing for essentially an NFL team in the college game against totally inferior opponents. If you're playing second fiddle to your tight end in the college game you aren't a 1st round WR. He's also not the deep ball specialist we really need and has a high drop rate. Plenty other WRs out there who have produced more on the field and who have higher upside..Legette and Franklin being 2 of them who should be available at pick 32. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hoover:
Bart Veach is feeling it. A year after no team would trade with the Chiefs, suddenly teams are willing to dance. With the Chris Jones contract saga now settled, and L'Jarius Sneed in Nashville, for the first time in years Bart has a pretty clear roadmap on what the future needs of his team are, and he makes a huge move to fill the biggest hole on team when he makes a draft day blockbuster trade that the Chiefs have not seen since they drafted Mahomes.
Instead of trading up for a franchise quarterback, Veach is now pushing all his chips into the middle of the table to select Mahomes' blindside defender, Joe Alt, who slips down just far enough that Veach at the Chiefs have enough draft capital (this year and next year's first rounder plus some change) to finally end Veach's four season long quest to find a long term solution for the LT position.
While risky and expensive, the move provides Mahomes and the Chiefs bookend left and right tackles under control not the near future. Their remaining draft capital can still fill needs at wr, guard, and along the defensive line. If Alt, the best LT prospect pans out, the Chiefs will extend their playoff window and continue to challenge for even more championships.
This would be my ideal outcome also. We could get a good WR at 64. And maybe we would be lucky at TE in round three. [Reply]
Originally Posted by gordonelloyd:
This would be my ideal outcome also. We could get a good WR at 64. And maybe we would be lucky at TE in round three.
This team will be in the ship as many times as Mahomes' health allows.
Maximize that timeframe and prevent the easiest route to putting him on the ground. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Womble:
No. I made up my mind based on how average his numbers were playing for essentially an NFL team in the college game against totally inferior opponents. If you're playing second fiddle to your tight end in the college game you aren't a 1st round WR. He's also not the deep ball specialist we really need and has a high drop rate. Plenty other WRs out there who have produced more on the field and who have higher upside..Legette and Franklin being 2 of them who should be available at pick 32.
1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.
2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.
3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.
4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the fucking SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.
5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.
6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis. [Reply]
Only Weird games had a good theory about Veach wanting to trade up to the mid teens with a team like Seattle assuming one of three players fall: a tackle they like, Bowers of Brian Thomas
I think that’s something Veach would want but pulling it off would be very difficult [Reply]
Originally Posted by permachief:
Here's my results from the mock draft simulator link on post #21:
Pick 32 Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
Pick 64 Ben Sinnott TE Kansas State
Pick 95 Roman Wilson WR Michigan
Pick 131 Mekhi Wingo DT LSU
Pick 159 Luke McCaffrey WR Rice
Pick 173 Isaac Guerendo RB Louisville
Pick 224 Nehemiah Pritchett CB Auburn
Love the idea of Sinnott in the 3rd (2nd round is too high) paired with Xavier Worthy in the 1st. Let Mahomes start shattering records again.
Much like basketball, our ability to go both big and small dependent on matchup would be ridiculous. Weak back 7 in coverage? Mahomes going to spread your ass out have fun chasing Kelce, Rice, Hollywood, Worthy and Toney all day. Cant stop the run? Yeah we are going to have Kelce, Gray and Sinnott out there 85% of the snaps have fun tackling Pacheco 25-30 times today while we lean on our elite defense. [Reply]
I think we trade up and nab a WR. Bills are targeting one also, so it would be immensely satisfying to jump in front of them and take their guy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by bigjosh:
Never watched kstate in my life.
But i know alot of people were saying the same shit about Laporta last year. They were wrong.
Sinnott is going to be real good.
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TE was not one of the priorities that Veach listed. They also just signed a TE in FA. It could be Veach not wanting to show his hand, but the FA signing tells me he is not planning investing draft capital at TE this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.
2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.
3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.
4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the ****ing SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.
5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.
6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis.
McConkey missed the first 4 stat padding games last year vs. UT Martin, Ball State, South Carolina and UAB with SC being the only decent team. His stats last year look a lot better in that context. [Reply]
