ChiefsPlanet Mobile
Home Today's Posts
Page 8 of 8
« First < 45678
Nzoner's Game Room>PFFs Top 25 Cornerbacks of 2018
T-post Tom 03:33 PM 02-14-2019
https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...he-nfl-in-2018

PFFs Top 25 CBs of 2018


With the regular season in the books, we are counting down the highest-graded cornerbacks this season in the NFL. With every throw and catch attributed to someone in coverage this season, here’s who played the best.

[Editor’s Note: The list below purely runs off our Player Grades, which are made available to all of our EDGE and ELITE subscribers.]

1. STEPHON GILMORE, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

It was a career year for Gilmore whom Bill Belichick has taken to employing as a weapon in the secondary. New England shadowed receivers more than any other team in the NFL this season, and it was often Gilmore’s job to take away the other team’s top receiving threat. He tracked receivers in 13 games this year yet still only allowed 42 catches on 90 targets for 466 yards all year.

2. DESMOND KING II, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS

The league’s preeminent slot cornerback at the moment, King simply doesn’t allow many first downs. On his 78 targets this past season, only 22 went for first downs. 81 cornerbacks allowed more first downs in their coverage this season.

3. CHRIS HARRIS JR., DENVER BRONCOS

Harris was at the top of his game before ending up on the IR. He may have only played 12 games, but he allowed a passer rating of only 63.6 when healthy. The Broncos corner was back to his stingy ways in the red zone once again, allowing only one touchdown on the year.

4. KAREEM JACKSON, HOUSTON TEXANS

It was a rough Wild Card weekend for Jackson, but during the regular season, he was the Swiss Army Knife for the Texans. Alternating between safety and corner, Jackson had a career revival this past season. He didn’t allow a touchdown all season long.

5. BYRON JONES, DALLAS COWBOYS

One of PFF’s top-10 breakout players from 2018, Jones season at corner was so dominant it makes you wonder why he ever was stuck at safety in the first place. PFF’s first-team All-Pro corner allowed a 53.6 percent catch rate and had 10 pass breakups.

6. JASON MCCOURTY, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Yet another Patriots corner who had a career year. McCourty allowed a completion percentage of only 58.9 on the season, his lowest for a single season in his career. Arguably his most impressive stat on the year, though, was that McCourty committed one penalty all season long.

7. KYLE FULLER, CHICAGO BEARS

Fuller may not have been the stingiest cornerback in coverage this season, allowing 745 yards, but few had his playmaking ability. Fuller’s seven interceptions led the NFL while his 12 pass breakups were second at the position.

8. PATRICK PETERSON, ARIZONA CARDINALS

While the rest of the Arizona defense crumbled around him, Peterson continued his elite play. He allowed 30 catches all season long. That’s fewer than two per game. His 0.63 yards allowed per coverage snap was the lowest in the league.

9. BRYCE CALLAHAN, CHICAGO BEARS

Callahan made himself some money with his play for Chicago this season in the slot. His 0.72 yards per coverage snap was the fifth-lowest at the position in the NFL, and he only allowed a passer rating of 80.5 in his coverage.

10. JOHNATHAN JOSEPH, HOUSTON TEXANS

At 34 years old, Joseph had a bounce-back year in a big way. After allowing the highest passer rating in almost a decade last season, Joseph only allowed a passer rating of 76.0 this season.

11. PRINCE AMUKAMARA, CHICAGO BEARS

While Amukamara’s career has been plagued by injury, he’s been one of the most consistent corners in the NFL when healthy. That was finally the case again in 2018, and he earned a career-high grade because of it. Amukamara allowed a passer rating of 82.9 this past season.

12. DENZEL WARD, CLEVELAND BROWNS

The highest-graded rookie cornerback on this list, Ward lived up to his top-five billing. He allowed a catch rate of 53.7 and passer rating of 70.7 to immediately transform the Browns secondary. We’ll be seeing his name on this list for years to come.

13. MARLON HUMPHREY, BALTIMORE RAVENS

After a solid rookie season, Humphrey quite comfortably established himself as one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL this year. His 52.5 catch rate allowed was the seventh-best in the league this season and his 22.5 percent forced incompletion rate was third-best.

14. CASEY HAYWARD JR., LOS ANGELES CHARGERS

It wasn’t quite the production we saw from Hayward in 2017, but some of that wasn’t his fault. Quarterbacks simply stopped targeting Hayward as much this season. He was the third-least targeted cornerback per coverage snap. The Chargers corner allowed only 32 catches all season.

15. PIERRE DESIR, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

While Desir had a career year in coverage, his ability against the run was key in the Colts’ cover-2 heavy defense. He finished the season with the second-best run defense grade of all corners.

16. XAVIEN HOWARD, MIAMI DOLPHINS

Howard had a very boom-or-bust season. His 50.9 percent catch rate was third-best in the NFL, but at the same time, his 16.2 yards per catch allowed was the second-worst among corners. Still, seven picks in only 12 games is pretty absurd production for the Dolphins corner.

17. A.J. BOUYE, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

Bouye wasn’t near the level we saw over the last two seasons, but it’s difficult to complain about still being the 17th-best corner in the NFL. Bouye only allowed 417 yards on the season, but his 67.2 percent catch rate allowed was nearly 20 percentage points higher than a season ago.

18. DARIUS SLAY, DETROIT LIONS

The interceptions might not have been there this season, but targeting Slay still wasn’t beneficial for opposing quarterbacks this season. He had the sixth-best forced incompletion rate at 19.8 and was third in the NFL was 12 pass breakups.

19. TRUMAINE JOHNSON, NEW YORK JETS

After a down 2017, Johnson was once again at the top of his game when healthy. He played in only 10 games this season but still managed to nab four interceptions.

20. MARSHON LATTIMORE, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

It wasn’t the year Lattimore had hoped for after a dominant rookie season, but he had one of the toughest draws of any corner this season. Lattimore tracked Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Jr., Michael Crabtree, Alshon Jeffery, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans and Antonio Brown this year.

21. STEVEN NELSON, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

He may have allowed the second-most yards of any cornerback in the NFL (825), but it’s only because he was targeted eight times more than any corner in the league. His 53.1 percent catch rate and 76.8 passer rating allowed show how good Nelson really was this year.

22. WILLIAM JACKSON III, CINCINNATI BENGALS

While the Bengals’ pass defense was atrocious, Jackson more than held his own. He allowed only 38 catches all season long and had 10 pass breakups on the year.

23. ADOREE’ JACKSON, TENNESSEE TITANS

Jackson was picked on ruthlessly in the Titans’ defense, getting 105 passes thrown his way this season. He continued his high-level of play, though, allowing a catch rate of 62.9 and had seven pass breakups.

24. JALEN RAMSEY, JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

While Bouye took a small step back from 2017, Ramsey took an even bigger one. He allowed 163 more yards this season and had four fewer combined pass breakups and interceptions.

25. JAIRE ALEXANDER, GREEN BAY PACKERS

It was a rocky first year at times for Alexander, who also battled through injury, but the high-level play from him was as good as anyone in the NFL. His five pass breakup game against the Rams was one of the best from any corner this year.
[Reply]
rtmike 06:32 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin:
Incorrect. I also see him celebrating an incomplete pass standing on top of his 2nd pass interference penalty of the game, or his 8th Holding call.

So, you’re saying he has some “Mighty Mouse” in him?



Boy, I hated him. Those were some bad years.
[Reply]
T-post Tom 07:02 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by MahiMike:
So Nelson > Ramsey?
Statistically for 2018, supposedly. They did include that qualifier. Seems Ramsey lost his mojo after losing to the Chiefs. :-)
[Reply]
T-post Tom 07:04 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard:
Apparently, you aren't a good QB if you don't have it.
True story
:-)
[Reply]
T-post Tom 07:24 PM 02-15-2019
The play of the CBs was hindered by poor safety play. Safeties were of little help & seemed to be out of position more often than not. Scheme was an issue too. Hoping the new coaches (and hopefully new safeties) will raise the boats of all the CBs.
[Reply]
Chris Meck 07:28 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by T-post Tom:
The play of the CBs was hindered by poor safety play. Safeties were of little help & seemed to be out of position more often than not. Scheme was an issue too. Hoping the new coaches (and hopefully new safeties) will raise the boats of all the CBs.
I think this is true. I also think we still need to upgrade the position, with 2 new guys, either two high picks or a high pick and a FA.
[Reply]
DJ's left nut 08:28 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin:
Incorrect. I also see him celebrating an incomplete pass standing on top of his 2nd pass interference penalty of the game, or his 8th Holding call.
He has literally NEVER had multiple pass interference penalties in a single game. Not once in his entire career. He has had a single game with multiple holding calls (2 against the Jets in 2017; he had 3 penalties total that whole season).

The amount of shit you people have to flat out make up to cover for the fact that you simply aren't paying attention is laughable.
[Reply]
T-post Tom 08:44 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I think this is true. I also think we still need to upgrade the position, with 2 new guys, either two high picks or a high pick and a FA.
100% agree. My hope is that the Chiefs pick a CB with their first pick. Whether at 29 or possibly moving up. Just so long as they find a legit starter and don't sell the farm to get him. Having a legit starting CB on a 5 year rookie deal can't be overvalued in my opinion.
[Reply]
TambaBerry 08:55 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He has literally NEVER had multiple pass interference penalties in a single game. Not once in his entire career. He has had a single game with multiple holding calls (2 against the Jets in 2017; he had 3 penalties total that whole season).

The amount of shit you people have to flat out make up to cover for the fact that you simply aren't paying attention is laughable.
How many were called and not accepted?
[Reply]
ILChief 09:02 PM 02-15-2019
I like Fuller and Ward better. Those two plus a hopefully high pick and new defensive coaches should make our pass defense plenty good
[Reply]
Chiefs4TheWin 09:47 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He has literally NEVER had multiple pass interference penalties in a single game. Not once in his entire career. He has had a single game with multiple holding calls (2 against the Jets in 2017; he had 3 penalties total that whole season).

The amount of shit you people have to flat out make up to cover for the fact that you simply aren't paying attention is laughable.
I was obviously exaggerating on the actual penalty statistics.

Paying attention? To that defense? Hell I fricken walked out the damn room when that garbage was on display. You deserve a medal for "Paying Attention" to that hot mess. I'll leave that up to you guys.
[Reply]
JohnnyV13 10:38 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
When you're going to rely on bend don't break style defense and just trying to stop people in the redzone, Peters was a big loss. For this scheme he was good because he could take the ball away and that was out best way to stop teams.

Hopefully that's not the case anymore.
I also think the Rams didn't use Peters right. He's more of an off-man corner than press man.
[Reply]
BossChief 12:19 AM 02-16-2019
This defense needs a true #1 corner, a stud MLB that can play sideline to sideline and a couple safeties.

If we add a true #1 CB, that pushes the other guys into their comfort zones and the whole defense will vastly improve.

If we add a true #1 CB along with the other pieces I mentioned, this team will win the next 5 Super Bowls.
[Reply]
mcaj22 12:36 AM 02-16-2019
You'd have to see the actual game by game splits on those cherry picked stats to see how good Nelson actually was.

Like if he gave up a 56 passer rating to crap Josh Rosen and a 96 passer rating to Jared Goff, he's still kinda crap. Still gave up 800 yards. If he gave up 100 yards to the Rams and Josh Reynolds and 20 yards to the Bengals and Tyler Boyd then yeah I mean still not a good player. I'd like to see if he was getting beaten like a drum by Big Ben, Brady, etc. Heck even Bortles put up 430 yards on this defense.

They played some BAD QBs that still chunked for a lot of yards because they were down big, and had some terrible completion percentages because of constantly throwing. Is it because the corners actually stopped them? Or just bad QBs being bad QBs that had to throw a lot against Mahomes.

Of those 825 yards given up how many were on 3rd down conversions? How many where in the red zone? How many of the yards directly led to points? There are so many variables. If that completion percentage is buoyed by Derek Carr, Case Keenum, Andy Dalton, Lamar Jacksons of the world and the catch rate is by most turd 3rd WRs he had to cover then it might be fools gold. I'd really like to see his matchups. Like was covering Tyler Locket all game or some turd like David Moore? Did he draw Mike Williams, Tyrell Williams or crap Travis Benjamin? Did he get beat like a drum by Julian Edelman? He's going to get a nice payday and go to another team and draw some stud coverages and you will see how good he is then.
[Reply]
Chargem 11:13 AM 02-16-2019
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
You'd have to see the actual game by game splits on those cherry picked stats to see how good Nelson actually was.

Like if he gave up a 56 passer rating to crap Josh Rosen and a 96 passer rating to Jared Goff, he's still kinda crap. Still gave up 800 yards. If he gave up 100 yards to the Rams and Josh Reynolds and 20 yards to the Bengals and Tyler Boyd then yeah I mean still not a good player. I'd like to see if he was getting beaten like a drum by Big Ben, Brady, etc. Heck even Bortles put up 430 yards on this defense.

They played some BAD QBs that still chunked for a lot of yards because they were down big, and had some terrible completion percentages because of constantly throwing. Is it because the corners actually stopped them? Or just bad QBs being bad QBs that had to throw a lot against Mahomes.

Of those 825 yards given up how many were on 3rd down conversions? How many where in the red zone? How many of the yards directly led to points? There are so many variables. If that completion percentage is buoyed by Derek Carr, Case Keenum, Andy Dalton, Lamar Jacksons of the world and the catch rate is by most turd 3rd WRs he had to cover then it might be fools gold. I'd really like to see his matchups. Like was covering Tyler Locket all game or some turd like David Moore? Did he draw Mike Williams, Tyrell Williams or crap Travis Benjamin? Did he get beat like a drum by Julian Edelman? He's going to get a nice payday and go to another team and draw some stud coverages and you will see how good he is then.
Here you go, 2018 games sorted by passer rating. Some notable games in there:


I couldn't agree with DJ more on Nelson, he's an above average but non-elite corner who I would be happy if they worked out how to retain without paying what he could get in the open market for.

I'd probably go up to $6m for him, but I think he gets closer to $10m and he's just not worth that.

EDIT: Hmm img link didn't work, did I mess it up? Screenshot is here https://imgur.com/a/kj9A1zz
[Reply]
Page 8 of 8
« First < 45678
Up

vBulletin; Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.