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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Mock Offseason 2/3/19
kccrow 08:08 PM 02-03-2019
I went with not cutting Berry in this rendition just to see where things could stand and appease Mr. DJ for a little while :-).

The Chiefs fire Bob Sutton in the offseason and hire Steve Spagnuolo, a former Reid assistant and Jim Johnson protege, as defensive coordinator. (I hit on both of these so I guess now it's time to hone the rest in...).

Chiefs beginning cap space of $42,967,636 using estimate of $190,000,000 salary cap per OTC (NFL stated range of $187.0 to 191.1 million).


WR Tyreek Hill: It's imperative to lock up the team's most dynamic player long-term and give Mahomes a weapon for the foreseeable future. Hill must be retained and he won't get cheaper.
5 years/$95.0m contract extension with $65m in guarantees, $42m guaranteed at signing, and $20m signing bonus. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 6.13 2020: 18.75 2021: 19.25 2022: 19.75 2023: 18.25 2024: 15.00
Notes: Hill will earn the NFL Proven Performance Escalator for the last year of his rookie deal which means his base salary will increase to the Right of First Refusal tender amount. That amount was $1.907 million in 2018 and increases by the percentage the cap increases with a minimum of 5% and a maximum of 10%. The NFL has stated a cap range between $187.0 and $191.1 million, which means Tyreek's 2019 salary will be between $2.012 and $2.056 million. I will err on the high side at 2.056 for tenders and PPEs.

DL Chris Jones: I've been preaching the same thing Andy Reid mentioned not too long ago: the quickest route to the QB is a straight line and having defensive lineman that can get after them up the middle is better than good edge rushers in today's NFL that sees QBs get the ball out quicker than ever. Jones has stepped up his game considerably and we should project that to continue.
5 years, $81.0m contract extension with $40.0m guaranteed at signing including $20.0m signing bonus. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 5.98 2020: 13.00 2021: 15.00 2022: 16.00 2023: 17.00 2024: 16.00

Note: These moves and Tyreek's performance escalator reduce 2019 cap space by $9.336m.

FS Jordan Lucas: RFA Original Round Tender estimated $2.05m (Hoping KC reaches an extension agreement to lower the hit)
DL Justin Hamilton: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus
PK Harrison Butker: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus
WR Markus Kemp: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus
WR Gehrig Deiter: ERFA Tender estimated $570k + $30k bonus


SS Daniel Sorensen: Sorensen hasn't been much of an asset since signing his extension, routinely missing tackles and being subpar in coverage assignments. The Chiefs ailments in the back end are extensive and require re-tooling. The move frees up an additional $2.693m in cap space in 2019 and $4.75m in 2020 with dead money of $2.0m in 2019.

FA Acquisitions

DE Preston Smith (WAS): Smith is a very solid run defender and gets a ton of pressure on the QB despite less than eye-popping sack totals. He's the type of edge player this team needs on the outside to help stop the bleeding in the run game. He shouldn't command the type of contract that Dee Ford will with his gaudy sack total that will make some GM's go gaga. I think a Whitney Mercilus-type deal taken to current cap dollars is his value.
4 years, $35.00m with $7.00m signing bonus and $13.40m fully guaranteed. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 8.25 2020: 8.25 2021 8.75 2022: 9.75

CB Ronald Darby (PHI): Darby is a bit of a gamble coming off an ACL injury, but if he's on track in March he could still see a pay day similar to Allen Robinson. I'm going to go all out here and sign him to a lucrative deal that has some protections in it should the Chiefs need to release him after one season. He's a far better corner than anyone on this board seems to want to admit and is becoming one of the better all-around corners in the NFL, plus he's still only 25 with his prime ahead of him.
5 years/$65.5m with $16.5m guaranteed, a $10.5m signing bonus, and $14.25m in potential additional guarantees including roster bonuses of $3.0m in 2020 and $4.0m in 2021 as well as a salary guarantee of $7.25m in 2020 if he's on the roster the 5th day of those respective league years. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 8.25 2020: 12.50 2021: 13.75 2022: 14.75 2023: 16.25

TE Maxx Williams (BAL): Williams has had alot of injuries throughout his career but he's still extremely young and has flashed what made him a high round pick. He'd make an excellent number two type with solid hands, route running, and blocking ability.
3 years/$9.0m with $1.5m signing bonus, and $1.0m roster bonuses in 2020 and 2021 if he's on the roster the 5th day of the new league year. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 2.00 2020: 3.25 2021: 3.75

RB T.J. Yeldon (JAX): Yeldon is a nice complimentary back that really excels in the passing game and could be a sure-fire weapon under Andy Reid, especially given his penchant for using backs on screens and down the field. Yeldon may look for a starting gig but if there are no takers, he's going to have plenty of options to be part of a committee once again and there may not be a better fit for him.
2 years/$4.5m with $1.4m signing bonus and $1.9m guaranteed. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 1.75 2020: 2.75

SS Andrew Adams (TB): I've been high on Adams since he left UConn and every time he gets a shot to play he does well. He doesn't have many starts with only 4 in each of the past two seasons, but he'd be a nice cheap safety to bring in and compete for a starting gig and at worst should be solid depth.
2 years/$4.0m with $1.0m signing bonus and $1.5m guaranteed. Estimated Cap Hits 2019: 1.80 2020: 2.20

All PS on Minimal Deals that likely don't affect Top-51.

Let Walk

DE Allen Bailey, CB Orlando Scandrick, TE Demetrius Harris, FS Josh Shaw, RB Spencer Ware, OC Mitch Morse, FS Ron Parker, WR De'Anthony Thomas, OLB Frank Zombo, CB Steven Nelson, ILB Terrence Smith, WR Chris Conley, FB Anthony Sherman

Players Already Signed Notes & Guesstimates
Damien Williams: OTC released details of the Williams extension, noting that it was 2 years, 5.1m with cap hits of 1.73 and 2.83 million in 2019 and 2020 respectively.

Austin Reiter: The extension for Reiter was released a couple weeks back and for all intensive purposes has cap hits of 1.46 and 2.76 million in 2019 and 2020 respectively.


The Chiefs franchise tag Dee Ford at the onset of free agency, then trade him and their 2nd round pick acquired from the Los Angeles Rams (Peters) to the Green Bay Packers for a 2019 1st #30 (from Saints) and 2019 4th ~118 (from Redskins).

Just a note here that I think KC is going to do something aside from just letting Ford walk. They should be able to get compensation higher than a late 3rd with a simple tag and trade. I recall when KC franchised Jared Allen then flipped him for a 1st and two 3rds. I don't think Ford commands that type of compensation, but he's certainly worth a mid-2nd and 4th, which is what my trade proposition essentially is.

Cap Estimate Net of Transactions: 4.5m


Chiefs have a projected 6th round compensatory selection for Bennie Logan.

1. LB Mack Wilson, Alabama (6'1" 240)
1. FS Nassir Adderley, Delaware (6'0" 195) [f/GB - Ford]
2. CB Julian Love, Notre Dame (5'11" 190)
3. TE Josh Oliver, San Jose State (6'5" 250)
4. WR Gary Jennings Jr., West Virginia (6'1" 215) [f/GB - Ford]
5. DT Cortez Broughton, Cincinnati (6'2" 290)
6. LB Ryan Connelly, Wisconsin (6'2" 240)
6. FS Kareem Orr, Chattanooga (5'11" 195) [Comp - Logan]
7. WR Tony Brooks-James, Oregon (was RB) (5'9" 180) [f/SF - Streater]

Roster (Not representative of 53)

QB: Patrick Mahomes, Chad Henne, Chase Litton
RB: Damien Williams, T.J. Yeldon, Darrel Williams
FB: UDFA or some vet min guy
TE: Travis Kelce, Maxx Williams, Josh Oliver
WR: Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Demarcus Robinson, Gary Jennings Jr., Byron Pringle, Tony Brooks-James, Marcus Kemp, Gehrig Deiter
OT: Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz
OG: Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, Andrew Wylie, Cameron Erving (OC), Ryan Hunter, Khalil McKenzie
OC: Austin Reiter, Jimmy Murray
DE: Justin Houston, Preston Smith, Breeland Speaks, Tanoh Kpassagnon, Rob McCray
DT: Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, Xavier Williams, Cortez Broughton, Justin Hamilton
LB: Anthony Hitchens, Mack Wilson, Dorian O'Daniel, Ben Niemann, Reggie Ragland, Ryan Connelly
CB: Ronald Darby, Kendall Fuller, Julian Love, Charvarius Ward, Tremon Smith, D'Montre Wade
SS: Eric Berry, Andrew Adams, Armani Watts
FS: Nassir Adderley, Jordan Lucas, Kareem Orr, Eric Murray
ST: Harrison Butker, Dustin Colquitt, James Winchester
MotherfuckerJones 05:47 PM 02-15-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I don't think Greedy's even that good, man. There's no damn way I'd crater the top of the draft to get him instead of Baker. I think as more and more teams start to dig into him, he's going to slide and may not even be the #1 corner when all is said and done.

He just looks a little oversized and stiff to be a true shutdown CB these days. I know that's counter-intuitive and maybe the combine will make me look stupid, but he just doesn't look as fluid as I thought he would. It's probably just that he's so damn long that he looks more awkward than he is.

I'm just not going to give up that kind of capital to get him (I dunno where you got the 'two firsts' but I presume we're using our original 1st and both our 2nds to move up into the top 10 in your scenario).
Iíll be honest. I like Joejuan even over Greedy. Joejuan is going to be a stud.
Chris Meck 05:49 PM 02-15-2019
You can't give up a bunch of anything to move up for anyone in this draft. We have holes to fill and it's a deep draft in spots we need help. We should be able to get several contributors.
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