Chiefs Let's talk about the Ravens. - Page 26

The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?
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Originally Posted by Blick:
Sorry, you said he's a "more athletic Tebow" so I described them physically and athletically.

59% is still way better than Tebow's career 48%.

Jackson had two seasons of 3500+ yards in college. Tebow's best was 3200 and had 2 seasons under 3000.

Jackson is a way better passer like I said.

Ahhh but see now you're mixing stats- Tim Tebow in college completed about 66% of his passes- almost 10% better than Lamar Jackson during his collegiate days (57%). Tebow's career % you're referring to is his NFL numbers- Lamar Jackson's 59% completion percentage is a bit premature especially since this is his 4th career start on Sunday.

Tim Tebow yards per attempt in college 10.2. Lamar Jackson yards per attempt in college 8.5. Lamar Jackson in both of those 3500 yard seasons at Louisville attempted over 400 passes- Tebow's highest was 350 (when he threw for a hair under 3300).

I'm not necessarily disagreeing that Jackson is a better thrower- but he is BARELY a better passer than Tebow.
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Originally Posted by Shoes:
Ahhh but see now you're mixing stats- Tim Tebow in college completed about 66% of his passes- almost 10% better than Lamar Jackson during his collegiate days (57%). Tebow's career % you're referring to is his NFL numbers- Lamar Jackson's 59% completion percentage is a bit premature especially since this is his 4th career start on Sunday.

Tim Tebow yards per attempt in college 10.2. Lamar Jackson yards per attempt in college 8.5. Lamar Jackson in both of those 3500 yard seasons at Louisville attempted over 400 passes- Tebow's highest was 350 (when he threw for a hair under 3300).

I'm not necessarily disagreeing that Jackson is a better thrower- but he is BARELY a better passer than Tebow.

Fair enough. He's closer to Tebow than I originally perceived. I think he's more like a raw Vick. Throwing out the numbers, I just think Jackson throws a better ball than Tebow. Also a way more dynamic runner. His speed is closer to Vick's than Tebow.
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Originally Posted by bowener:
God damn. After reading some of their posts in their forum it is clear most of their posters haven't watched more than Chiefs highlights.

They keep saying TOP is key... bullshit. The Chiefs don't give a fuck how long you have the ball, they will score in a minute or less if needed.

They talk about how the Chiefs haven't faced a D like theirs and Pat will be on his ass all game. I guess they didn't bother to look at the defensive fronts the Chiefs have gone against this season.

They say they must win the turnover battle like that matters. Chiefs lost the ball 5 times versus the Rams in LA, and still only lost by 3 fucking points to a MUCH more threatening offense.

They think the Chiefs rely on chunk plays and aren't capable of sustained drives... that is possibly the dumbest fucking comment of all. The Chiefs don't rely on chunk plays, they fucking create them. The Chiefs version of a sustained drive is long ass plays until they score in 3 minutes or less. They aren't fluke plays, this offense is just that good.

All the Chiefs have to do this game on offense is have an average day, and defensively they must force Lamar to win the game throwing.

Even if neither of those things happens I think the Chiefs win a close one. If both happen the Chiefs put this one away like the Jags game.

YEEEUP!!!!

Ravens fans are fucking STUPID!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by bobbything:
If you guys can stick to running the ball, you have a very real chance to be there in the end. Denver was right there until they went derpy and Elway had to prove he's a genius by letting Keenum start tossing the ball all over.

That said, the formula for KC all season has been to defer the kickoff (I think they've only received in the 1st half twice all season...maybe three times (?)), get a stop early, get a quick score, get another stop (or field goal), get another score, then go straight derp on defense and force the offense to stay aggressive. It's worked 10 times. Basically if KC gets up 14 early, it's typically bad news because it forces other teams to try and catch up...which they can do because our defense is butthole. That said, our offense has pretty well kept pace all year; especially when needed.

The two losses we had came in the final 2 minutes of the game when our defense dropped a yam on the field and played "fling the pooh" with each other instead of playing defense.

KC 27
Bal 20

LOL I'll be ecstatic if we hold them to 20.
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Originally Posted by Easy 6:
While they likely would've made a game of it in Baltimore, the Ravens are in for a world of hurt at Arrowhead... they can run it between the 20s all they want for all I care

We're not gonna look like the same team that played in Oakland last sunday... we're gonna be tight, right, and outta sight

People don’t give the Chiefs NEAR enough credit for how they handled the Hunt situation last weekend.

I could argue that the Raiders game may have been one of the hardest games to win all season just for the fact that Hunt was cut 48 hours prior. It may as well have been a death and funeral on that Friday. They then board a plane to fly across the country and pull out the win against a desperate division rival.

Not easy, I don’t care what their record says. I suspect they will be in much better shape mentally at this point.
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
People don’t give the Chiefs NEAR enough credit for how they handled the Hunt situation last weekend.

I could argue that the Raiders game may have been one of the hardest games to win all season just for the fact that Hunt was cut 48 hours prior. It may as well have been a death and funeral on that Friday. They then board a plane to fly across the country and pull out the win against a desperate division rival.

Not easy, I don’t care what their record says. I suspect they will be in much better shape mentally at this point.

Couldnt agree more, losing the NFL Rushing Champion on such short notice would've cost most teams the game, particularly when one considers that game was the Raiders Super Bowl

We were clearly reeling from it, yet still put up 40 and a W
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