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Nzoner's Game Room>Off Season Lets Talk Guns, Part 2
HonestChieffan 11:58 AM 01-23-2011
Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?
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Perineum Ripper 03:16 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I am curious. Why do they have a need to be shooting that far consistently?
Lot of them are former snipers, and like to keep up on their skills. Tons more are sponsored long range shooters that shot that distance for competition. Some just like shooting that distance for fun and challenges your skills on a ton of levels. It’s actually a fairly fast growing “phenomenon” in the shooting world. A few different YouTube channels dedicated to long range shooting
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Megatron96 03:17 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I am curious. Why do they have a need to be shooting that far consistently?
Going out on a limb here . . . because it's fun for them?
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Easy 6 03:44 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
I understand this thought - but if we assume a shotgun is good for 50 yards out, what situation would you be willing to pull the trigger beyond that distance outside of full-scale war? Not judging, just I've thought about this myself and struggle to come up with a realistic scenario.
Well, there’s always the off chance this nation devolves into actual war, and should that happen there’s plenty of bad people with high powered rifles

And while I’m not into hunting, should a scenario arise where it proves to be the best bet to feed myself and loved ones... I’d like the ability to reach out beyond 50 yards

Last but not least, long range shooting is actually a lot of fun... testing your weapon and yourself to see what you’re both capable of
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Randallflagg 03:46 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by hometeam:
when the zombies come 308 is gonna be everywhere. creedmore not so much


I know that this might sound crazy - but when I buy a weapon (AR for example), my main sticking point is how accessible and economical Ammo is. I usually stock up when ammo goes on sale.

For me, the decision was simple. The .308 in my AR10 works like a champ. It reaches out as far as I need it to - usually between 350-500 yards with ease.

I also have a WWII Mauser 7 mm that does the job quite well - although ammo can be ridiculous some times. But, it was a gift from my Father when I was a kid and I still have it. It's got a Leupold scope on it and will take down a buck at 500 yards without breaking a sweat.

The problem with that, however, is that it is rare (around these parts) when I have a clear shot at that distance. If I go into Wyoming or Colorado - different story. :-)
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Randallflagg 03:47 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Well, there’s always the off chance this nation devolves into actual war, and should that happen there’s plenty of bad people with high powered rifles

And while I’m not into hunting, should a scenario arise where it proves to be the best bet to feed myself and loved ones... I’d like the ability to reach out beyond 50 yards

Last but not least, long range shooting is actually a lot of fun... testing your weapon and yourself to see what you’re both capable of


I don't know....some days I feel we are heading into free fall in this country........ :-)
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Easy 6 03:59 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
I don't know....some days I feel we are heading into free fall in this country........ :-)
Is it gonna get better when Trump eventually goes, like many people seem to think?

I’m not so sure myself, the divide was there before him and will be there long after him IMO
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Raiderhater 04:28 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Is it gonna get better when Trump eventually goes, like many people seem to think?

I’m not so sure myself, the divide was there before him and will be there long after him IMO
It’s coming regardless. Everything going on currently aside, Trump might be the one that keeps things from going full scale civil war. He will keep agencies in check enough to prevent things from escalating too much. When a liberal democrat is in that seat is when we really have to worry. Antifa will riot and loot but, they are not prepared for a full scale war. On the opposite side, when traditional Americans are pushed to the brink is when it will happen. It will be a Lexington-Concord type of situation where the government has just taken a step too far.

The left just doesn’t have the cajones to start an actual war. It’ll be our side that says enough is enough. And I just do not see that happening during Trump’s tenure - because while we don’t always like or agree with him, we still recognize that he isn’t going to be forcing us to house soldiers and confiscate our arms. He is much more on our side than he isn’t.
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Randallflagg 07:26 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Is it gonna get better when Trump eventually goes, like many people seem to think?

I’m not so sure myself, the divide was there before him and will be there long after him IMO

Yeah, I don't think Trump is the impetus for much. I remember the absolute hatred for Richard Nixon and little happened then.

No, I truly, with all my heart, believe that this is something that has been brewing for 50 or so years.
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Tombstone RJ 08:42 PM 06-14-2020
Antifa wants to goad people into vigilantism and conflict in the streets, that's their end game. Then they can point their finger at normal people who are just tired of the BS and say "SEE, WE TOLD YOU THEY WERE FACISTS AND HATERS AND BIGOTS AND EXTREMISTS, IT'S THEM, NOT US!"

Then the swamp creatures in DC will have their excuse to revoke the Constitution and Bill of Rights and impose martial law as they dissolve the old USA and create a new one based on socialism/communism. Trump is just a finger in the dam holding back the inevitable conflict this nation is heading towards. When Trump won in 2016, it threw a monkey wrench into the globalists plans to institute a one-world government, where their are a small group of people at the very top who dictate to everyone how to think, how to live.
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Megatron96 08:53 PM 06-14-2020
Originally Posted by mac459:
Lot of them are former snipers, and like to keep up on their skills. Tons more are sponsored long range shooters that shot that distance for competition. Some just like shooting that distance for fun and challenges your skills on a ton of levels. It’s actually a fairly fast growing “phenomenon” in the shooting world. A few different YouTube channels dedicated to long range shooting
The 6.5CM is apparently the darling of the long-range shooting world right now. At least according to a buddy of mine that shoots 1000m steel. And I do know a couple guys that hunt medium to large game with them. But the vast majority of people will never have the skills to shoot accurately beyond a few hundred yards (less than 200 yds judging by most of the people I see at the range), so the advantages of 6.5 CM are probably lost on most people.

I shoot prairie-dogs out to just under 600 yds with a rifle chambered in .223 rem. Technically speaking I cold probably push out to about 700 yards with a match-grade barrel and a better FCU. But I'm shooting rats for all intents and purposes, and I don't feel like spending that kind of money on rats.

With a 6.5CM I might be able to hit p-dogs beyond 800 yards, which would be amazing. But not worth the money.

If I were being paid to shoot, I'd probably get a 6.5CM.
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Tombstone RJ 09:03 PM 06-14-2020
PS, Trump is, by far, the best president in my lifetime outside of Reagan. Please remember, Trump is not a politician, he's not a Washington insider. Trump is a business man who loves this country very much. He's not some polished, slick snake oil salesman like many politicians. He is, in fact, the only thing holding back the far left and people like Hillary Clinton from destroying this country by shredding up the constitution and bill of rights. Also remember, the left has zero scruples, for them, the end justifies the means...
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Perineum Ripper 01:46 PM 06-15-2020
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
The 6.5CM is apparently the darling of the long-range shooting world right now. At least according to a buddy of mine that shoots 1000m steel. And I do know a couple guys that hunt medium to large game with them. But the vast majority of people will never have the skills to shoot accurately beyond a few hundred yards (less than 200 yds judging by most of the people I see at the range), so the advantages of 6.5 CM are probably lost on most people.

I shoot prairie-dogs out to just under 600 yds with a rifle chambered in .223 rem. Technically speaking I cold probably push out to about 700 yards with a match-grade barrel and a better FCU. But I'm shooting rats for all intents and purposes, and I don't feel like spending that kind of money on rats.

With a 6.5CM I might be able to hit p-dogs beyond 800 yards, which would be amazing. But not worth the money.

If I were being paid to shoot, I'd probably get a 6.5CM.


You may look into 6.5 Grendal, will work for AR15 lowers and has really good ballistics. Might get you stretched out further for dog hunting, lots of videos of them reaching over 1000 yards with it.


If I was being paid, I would probably go 6.5C as well. Such a good round for long distance and consistent
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HonestChieffan 08:20 PM 06-15-2020
Rem 260 is right there and better ballistics....not a cool name like creedmore however
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wazu 11:11 PM 06-15-2020
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Well, there’s always the off chance this nation devolves into actual war, and should that happen there’s plenty of bad people with high powered rifles

And while I’m not into hunting, should a scenario arise where it proves to be the best bet to feed myself and loved ones... I’d like the ability to reach out beyond 50 yards

Last but not least, long range shooting is actually a lot of fun... testing your weapon and yourself to see what you’re both capable of
Feels like the “all out war” option I wouldn’t be sure who I was shooting. But I guess that’s a problem with most wars. I do like the idea of trying long range shots.
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Dunerdr 06:48 AM 06-16-2020
Hey all. Looking for a cheap ish compact ish gun. At reasonable pricing as ill be buying 3 of them. One for myself, my wife and my dad. I've been looking at the ruger security 9 compact. Anything similar that you guys have had solid experience with?
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