Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Why because we don't want to remain locked in our homes to satisfy the social distancing snobs?
Also it is funny to look back at the dire predictions from a few weeks ago when everyone was claiming that Florida was going to experience a surge in cases because they weren't rushing to close the beaches and issue a state-wide shelter in place order.
That didn't happen.
Florida has the most Darwin Award nominees every damn year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
If you are concerned about hospital capacity then focus your disgust on the people who are putting the biggest strain on the health care system during the pandemic... people with diabetes, obesity and hypertension.
All of those conditions are primarily lifestyle-driven... people making bad lifestyle decisions.
We better be giving thanks to those people you keep referring to has the real problem. That is right I said give them thanks.
If it was not for those people we would have even less capacity. We would not have ever needed this many facilities, equipment, doctors, nurses, specialists, etc.
If it was not for those people you keep defiling we would have more people that would have died. We also owe them thanks for keep the cost down. The more procedures the cheaper things become. We also should be giving thanks for the practice they give our medical professionals. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eDave:
Yea, I'm starting to get dirtly looks for not wearing a mask. It's starting to piss me off.
Hell, I can't FIND any masks anywhere. People start giving you too much shit just wrap an old pair of underwear around your face (cleaned, of course). BONUS - automatic doubling of "social distancing". [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Hell, I can't FIND any masks anywhere. People start giving you too much shit just wrap an old pair of underwear around your face (cleaned, of course). BONUS - automatic doubling of "social distancing".
You can find fabric reusable masks on Esty for $10 dollars or less. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO: De Blasio: New Yorkers can report social distancing violations by texting photos to authorities
Heh, on that note:
I was over in a park by my house, tossing a ball for my dogs and doing some other training to keep them from going crazy earlier today. There wasn't another person for blocks. Keep in mind, what I was doing is perfectly legal under the current "restrictions." :-)
Some slap dick comes rolling up in a ghetto cruiser looking $100 piece of crap blazer, rolls down his window and proceeds to tell me he is going to "call the cops, because what you're doing Illegal."
I tried to be cool about it at first and explained to the dimwit that it was indeed legal, as long as I didn't hustle over and start playing on the kiddies equipment. (Can't do that under the current restrictions)
He says well I'm calling the cops and gets on his cell phone. I ignored him, but was getting pretty pissed off about it by this time.
The guys gets off his phone and says "I guess you're right, you can be here."
I looked at him and said "well no shit, now go be a park nanny someplace else and move the **** along."
The dude just gave me a slack jaw look and drives off. I think this thing is starting to make people completly go off the rails. [Reply]
Good God enough is enough all the legacy networks broadcasting One World -Together at Home. Who the fuck cares what those entitled D bags have to say or sing. Rant over! [Reply]
