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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 07:44 AM 08-07-2020


(CNN)A viral photo showing students in a Georgia high school crowded in hallways and with few visible masks resulted in the sophomore who posted it being suspended, she said.

Hannah Watters, a student at North Paulding High School in Dallas, Georgia, saw a photo of packed halls on the first day of school go viral. And when she saw that little had changed after that, she told CNN's Laura Coates on Thursday, she felt she had to share what it looked like inside the school. So, she took a photo of the scene and posted it to social media.

"I was concerned for the safety of everyone in that building and everyone in the county because precautions that the CDC and guidelines that the CDC has been telling us for months now, weren't being followed," Watters said.
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petegz28 07:50 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
We’re more like 50 different small Countries than one large one so that’s pretty much how it was always likely to go.
Yep
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O.city 08:07 AM 08-07-2020
https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/...335643137?s=21

Here’s a great thread from Michael Mina about testing and what we need to change
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dirk digler 08:26 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
We’re more like 50 different small Countries than one large one so that’s pretty much how it was always likely to go.
I don't know but we had 2 playbooks that suggested otherwise. The gov has wide latitude during a pandemic\severe health crisis especially after 9/11.
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Marcellus 08:58 AM 08-07-2020
Today's updated global numbers.

ACTIVE CASES
6,197,573

Currently Infected Patients
6,132,365 (99%)
in Mild Condition

65,208 (1%)
Serious or Critical
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Donger 09:03 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Today's updated global numbers.

ACTIVE CASES
6,197,573

Currently Infected Patients
6,132,365 (99%)
in Mild Condition

65,208 (1%)
Serious or Critical
Are you expecting that figure to change?
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dirk digler 09:27 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Today's updated global numbers.

ACTIVE CASES
6,197,573

Currently Infected Patients
6,132,365 (99%)
in Mild Condition

65,208 (1%)
Serious or Critical
Why do you leave deaths out? Currently there is 715K+ dead. In the end there will probably be more than a million dead worldwide with the US leading the way.
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Marcellus 09:34 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Why do you leave deaths out? Currently there is 715K+ dead. In the end there will probably be more than a million dead worldwide with the US leading the way.
:-) I'm not the one making the graphic on Worldometer.

And even so what % of the global population would that be? I'll help, .009%.


Originally Posted by :
Annual Deaths
Per Year 56,000,000
Per Month 4,679,452.00
Per Day 153,424.70
Per Hour 6,392.70
Per Minute 106.60
Per Second 1.80

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Donger 09:46 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
:-) I'm not the one making the graphic on Worldometer.

And even so what % of the global population would that be? I'll help, .009%.
Is it a revelation to you that COVID-19's IFR is less than 1%?
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dirk digler 09:57 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
:-) I'm not the one making the graphic on Worldometer.

And even so what % of the global population would that be? I'll help, .009%.
I was just curious. On the main page of worldmeters they list cases, deaths and recoveries right in front. :-)
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petegz28 09:59 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
:-) I'm not the one making the graphic on Worldometer.

And even so what % of the global population would that be? I'll help, .009%.
This is the problem with math, right?

Person A argues raw numbers:

We have had over 150k people in this country alone die from Covid or at least we think all of them are from Covid. That is a large number no matter how you cut it.

Person B argues percentages:

All the Covid deaths in this country amounts to .004% of our total population. So 99.996% of people have not died from this.


Both make good arguments and both have to be cognizant of each other
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Donger 10:01 AM 08-07-2020
Yeesh:

The Central Valley is among the areas of the nation that federal officials are particularly worried about. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government's top infectious diseases expert, said the big problem is the uptick in the rate at which coronavirus tests are confirming infections.

The 14-day positive test rate climbed to 24% in Kern County on Monday, more than triple the state's average of 7% on that day.

"This is a predictor of trouble ahead," Fauci said on CNN Thursday. A high rate of tests confirming infections is "a clear indication that you are getting an uptick in cases, which inevitably — as we've seen in the Southern states — leads to surges, and then you get hospitalizations, and then you get deaths."
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dirk digler 10:26 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
This is the problem with math, right?

Person A argues raw numbers:

We have had over 150k people in this country alone die from Covid or at least we think all of them are from Covid. That is a large number no matter how you cut it.

Person B argues percentages:

All the Covid deaths in this country amounts to .004% of our total population. So 99.996% of people have not died from this.


Both make good arguments and both have to be cognizant of each other
I don't disagree Pete but you could run the % for any of the major diseases and it would look small % wise. Right now in the US Covid is #3 killer behind heart disease and all cancers combined.
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dirk digler 10:48 AM 08-07-2020
Coronavirus Survivors' Blood Can Help Critically Ill COVID-19 Patients, Scientists Confirm

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...f=bftwbuzzfeed

Originally Posted by :
As we await a coronavirus vaccine, the spotlight in COVID-19 treatments is returning to antibodies, the body’s natural defenses against viruses.

On Monday, federal health officials kicked off two large clinical trials of synthetic antibodies to treat mild, moderate, and hospitalized coronavirus cases. A biotech firm is starting a related trial in nursing homes. And the FDA is expected to soon give emergency authorization to treating patients with the “convalescent plasma” of COVID-19 survivors — the part of blood that is rich in antibodies.

While almost no US hospitals were using convalescent plasma treatment before April, it is now administered to an estimated 1,500 patients a day in around 2,000 hospitals nationwide. And antibodies look only more likely to expand in use until a vaccine arrives. A preliminary analysis of data from about 50,000 patients presented to the FDA on Saturday at a Mayo Clinic symposium found a 10% drop in deaths among critically ill hospitalized COVID-19 patients given plasma with higher concentrations of antibodies compared to those given lower dose ones.

But since plasma treatment relies on people continuing to get sick and recover from COVID-19, it’s not a permanent solution. Other treatment options involving antibodies, including manufacturing them from scratch, could hold longer-term promise.

“Convalescent plasma was never intended to be the final treatment for a disease,” infectious disease expert Nicole Bouvier of the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai told BuzzFeed News. “It gives us more time to work on making other therapeutics.”

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Monticore 10:58 AM 08-07-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
This is the problem with math, right?

Person A argues raw numbers:

We have had over 150k people in this country alone die from Covid or at least we think all of them are from Covid. That is a large number no matter how you cut it.

Person B argues percentages:

All the Covid deaths in this country amounts to .004% of our total population. So 99.996% of people have not died from this.


Both make good arguments and both have to be cognizant of each other
Right now I would still put it in the do not want camp but things could change .
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