Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams:
Isn't that "Golden Age" football in Sacc World? :-)
I'd love to have them draft a QB, but Goff is a system guy that has bad feet and doesn't feel the pocket well. His production is over inflated due to Dykes offense, which basically the same "Air Raid" offense run by all Hal Mumme disciples, and it showed when they played Utah, who runs a very "pro" style of defense. (And Utah really isn't that good this year. They don't have any dynamic players on the defensive side of the ball. They are well coached however and play a strong, press man coverage type of defense that will expose spread systems, such as what they did against Oregon and California this season.)
IMO, I don't think he's nearly as good as either Geno Smith (same type of offensive system) or Teddy Bridgewater, let alone the bullshit Matt Ryan comparisons. And he's definitely not better than Alex Smith at the same stage.
He's going to have to be taught/re-learn the position for the pro game. He's also slight of build and will require a strength/conditioning program to get him ready to play at the next level. He's a project with some question marks.
Originally Posted by Saccopoo:
I'd love to have them draft a QB, but Goff is a system guy that has bad feet and doesn't feel the pocket well. His production is over inflated due to Dykes offense, which basically the same "Air Raid" offense run by all Hal Mumme disciples, and it showed when they played Utah, who runs a very "pro" style of defense. (And Utah really isn't that good this year. They don't have any dynamic players on the defensive side of the ball. They are well coached however and play a strong, press man coverage type of defense that will expose spread systems, such as what they did against Oregon and California this season.)
IMO, I don't think he's nearly as good as either Geno Smith (same type of offensive system) or Teddy Bridgewater, let alone the bullshit Matt Ryan comparisons. And he's definitely not better than Alex Smith at the same stage.
He's going to have to be taught/re-learn the position for the pro game. He's also slight of build and will require a strength/conditioning program to get him ready to play at the next level. He's a project with some question marks.
I really don't think he's worth a first.
I can respect this. So who then? Hack, Doink, or Cook? Or, do we enjoy another "winning season" with the ReidSmith and wait on Hundley? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams:
I can respect this. So who then? Hack, Doink, or Cook? Or, do we enjoy another "winning season" with the ReidSmith and wait on Hundley?
With the risk of offending kcnative, Boykin isn't going to play QB at the NFL level. He's short for the position at the next level (he's much closer to 6'0" than his listed 6'2") and very slight of build. He's exciting, a great athlete and all that in college, but it's not going to translate to the next level.
Hackenberg has all the tools you want, but he could be absolutely ruined. He's never really progressed from his freshman year and actually some believe he's regressed.
Cook...eh. He's ballsy and confident, but that also leads to most of his problems/potential problems. He wings it a lot when he's pressured and he feels pressure too easily from what I've seen, i.e., he breaks down too quickly and gets sloppy with his fundamentals. Good arm though and you like his demeanor.
Also, Goff, Hackenberg and Cardale Jones are all juniors. (As is Memphis QB Paxton Lynch, who I really like a lot, but he and Jones are redshirt juniors.)
Those guys may or may not declare.
I'd also seriously look at Stanford's Kevin Hogan in this upcoming draft. 6'4", 230 lb. senior with a cannon for an arm. Stanford is a run oriented offense so he's not putting up the gaudy statistics of the spread guys, but he's a smart, strong, tough QB that's a pretty good athlete. He's also been playing on a high ankle sprain that's limited his numbers somewhat the past couple of weeks. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Saccopoo:
With the risk of offending kcnative, Boykin isn't going to play QB at the NFL level. He's short for the position at the next level (he's much closer to 6'0" than his listed 6'2") and very slight of build. He's exciting, a great athlete and all that in college, but it's not going to translate to the next level.
Hackenberg has all the tools you want, but he could be absolutely ruined. He's never really progressed from his freshman year and actually some believe he's regressed.
Cook...eh. He's ballsy and confident, but that also leads to most of his problems/potential problems. He wings it a lot when he's pressured and he feels pressure too easily from what I've seen, i.e., he breaks down too quickly and gets sloppy with his fundamentals. Good arm though and you like his demeanor.
Also, Goff, Hackenberg and Cardale Jones are all juniors. (As is Memphis QB Paxton Lynch, who I really like a lot, but he and Jones are redshirt juniors.)
Those guys may or may not declare.
I'd also seriously look at Stanford's Kevin Hogan in this upcoming draft. 6'4", 230 lb. senior with a cannon for an arm. Stanford is a run oriented offense so he's not putting up the gaudy statistics of the spread guys, but he's a smart, strong, tough QB that's a pretty good athlete. He's also been playing on a high ankle sprain that's limited his numbers somewhat the past couple of weeks.
From what you've shown me, I would ABSOLUTELY take a flier on him. Yesterday. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Still not sold on Goff. Just don't think the arm is special, and I'm skeptical that system has prepared him for the NFL.
That's fine. He's going to sit on the bench in KC for a year anyway, while Alex dinks and dunks his way into oblivion. Any QB will.
We are in the perfect situation to pick a QB now. No pressure on the young'un. [Reply]