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Nzoner's Game Room>Brett Veach and Steve Spagnuolo
comochiefsfan 03:16 PM 12-09-2019
I owe these two men a huge apology.

When Indianapolis was running it down our throats all night and we couldn’t get Deshaun Watson off the field against Houston, I truly believed that we were worse off than we were last year on defense.

Holy shit was I wrong.

The Frank Clark trade? Money.

Bashaud Breeland? MUCH better than Nelson and Scandrick.

Honey Badger and Thornhill? LEAGUES better than hobo spirit and Ron Parker

Brett Veach was a stone cold stud this offseason.

And Steve Spagnuolo. Spags you beautiful son of a bitch. Watching Grandpa Bob sit back in two deep zone in the playoffs last year while Brady had all night to throw was like slowly rubbing my nutsack across a cactus.

This year? We sent the house after old man Brady and made him pay. And it was glorious. It’s what we should have done last year, but Grandpa Bob was too old and senile to figure it out. But Spags gets it, and most importantly, he has the personnel to do it.

Despite my criticism of Pat, I do believe the offense will figure it out. Sunday needs to be a get right game for him and the O. No more mental mistakes and dumb playcalls. Let’s get this thing rolling.

The defense is finally at a Super Bowl caliber level, and if we can get the offense back to full speed, we won’t lose again the rest of the season.

Let’s go get this shit!
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PAChiefsGuy 04:30 PM 12-09-2019
Too early. See how playoffs go but so far they've both done a great job especially Spags.
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O.city 04:32 PM 12-09-2019
The Bills are essentially the Pats with a younger offense and a QB that can atleast run.

They can beat New England in Foxboro.
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KurtCobain 04:32 PM 12-09-2019
I'm just sittin' on the corner suckin' on a big ol' chilli dog.
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Coochie liquor 06:00 PM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by staylor26:
How anybody can have faith in the Bills winning in Foxboro is beyond me.
They have the defense to do it. Their rb seems to be pretty decent. Their O line looked kinda weak though (at least against Baltimore). I wouldn’t say I have faith but they could absolutely play out of their minds and win that game. Pats are beatable this season.
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Lilmrp117 06:06 PM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
So. We already have the div. A bye week is still not guaranteed. We need our guys healthy. I hope we start resting.
No. You play hard trying to get a bye bc that increases chances of winning a super bowl greatly. If we fall 2 games behind new England then we can rest bc i don't see pats losing to bungles or dolphins so we can then concede the 2 seed to pats.
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tmax63 06:06 PM 12-09-2019
It took NE 2 trick plays, 2 DPI's and a questionable special teams play to score their points Sunday. Any decent team in the NFL can beat that ass wherever they play. They have gotten to this point by playing a soft schedule and their past glory. Teams have lost their fear of them and they are in trouble.
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Skyy God 06:22 PM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Whitlock says we will lose against the Broncos
JWhit is a troll with butter for a blood type.
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Chiefspants 06:25 PM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by KurtCobain:
I'm just sittin' on the corner suckin' on a big ol' chilli dog.
Just standin’ around..
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rabblerouser 10:59 PM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
The Bills are essentially the Pats with a younger offense and a QB that can atleast run.

They can beat New England in Foxboro.
Absolutely.

The Patriots almost lost to them the first time.

They had to knock Josh Allen out with a cheap shot,and still had to return a blocked punt for a TD to win.

Probably cheated on that blocked punt, too. Because they're cheaters. That's what they do.

Bills hung tough against Baltimore and almost tied it up late in the 4th. They ain't scared of the paper chumps.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 11:05 PM 12-09-2019
Who knew that Reid calls the plays and not Bieniemy
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BossChief 11:18 PM 12-09-2019
While we’re eating crow, I’ll take mine. I wasn’t a fan of the Frank Clark trade, but the guy is a manimal that teams game plan for. Rock solid all around smart football player with a definite edge to his game. Very glad to have him and excited to see how he performs in the postseason. A true savage.

Wasn’t excited about bringing in Spags. Saw how some of his defenses have finished in the past and wasn’t excited. That, too has been shown to be I’ll founded. I LOVE his aggressive style and think it fits perfectly with the talent and skill set of the players we have on defense. Reminds me a lot of Jim Johnson’s old pressure based aggressive defenses. Love the attitude.

This is going to be one hell of a ride and the start has been a blast!
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 11:23 PM 12-09-2019
So what does McDaniels get Spags for Father’s Day?

#Patriots film: #Chiefs DC Steve Spagnuolo was a step ahead of Josh McDaniels in the 2nd quarter.

NE ran on 7/9 of its initial 1st-and-10 snaps. KC began loading the box, then blitzed Brady on 2nd-and-longs. Later, McDaniels goes play-action screen on 2nd-and-10, KC backs off. pic.twitter.com/fXyhu9UoHD

— Andrew Callahan (@_AndrewCallahan) December 9, 2019

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Chris Meck 07:47 AM 12-10-2019
Originally Posted by BossChief:
While we’re eating crow, I’ll take mine. I wasn’t a fan of the Frank Clark trade, but the guy is a manimal that teams game plan for. Rock solid all around smart football player with a definite edge to his game. Very glad to have him and excited to see how he performs in the postseason. A true savage.

Wasn’t excited about bringing in Spags. Saw how some of his defenses have finished in the past and wasn’t excited. That, too has been shown to be I’ll founded. I LOVE his aggressive style and think it fits perfectly with the talent and skill set of the players we have on defense. Reminds me a lot of Jim Johnson’s old pressure based aggressive defenses. Love the attitude.

This is going to be one hell of a ride and the start has been a blast!
This is what I was trying to argue when we hired Spags-
When he's been put in a stable situation with a solid and established head coach/front office situation, he builds winning defenses and quickly, usually turning it around in one to two seasons. His 'bad' defense years are usually in chaotic situations, coach fired, interim coach, bounty gate in N.O., etc.

And his tenure as a head coach wasn't great, but it was a transitional period for the Rams going from the Vermeil to Martz offenses that were now completely talent depleted. So, a rebuild effort.
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Rasputin 07:51 AM 12-10-2019
Originally Posted by KurtCobain:
I'm just sittin' on the corner suckin' on a big ol' chilli dog.

That sounds like you are enticing a cop for some favors.. :-)
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oldman 08:23 AM 12-10-2019
I'm going to give Veach a pass on the 2018 draft, but you have to admit the 2019 class is pretty solid. I'm not going to say the Clark deal was a winner just quite yet, but he's a massive improvement over Dee Ford. Finding guys like Ogbah, Pennel, and Okafor shouldn't be overlooked, either.
Spags seems to have figured out who to play, when to play them, and what packages to use. It's a work in progress, but I'll take the Dec. 2019 version of the D over last year's disaster.
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