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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Mock 2/7
kccrow 08:23 PM 02-07-2018
Trades
QB Alex Smith to Washington for 2018 3rd round selection (78) and CB Kendall Fuller per sources.

Retirements (Else Release)
ILB Derrick Johnson
OLB Tamba Hali
If either of these guys don't hang it up, it's time for the Chiefs to finally grow a set of balls and cut them loose. Business is business. There is zero reason to keep players that don't produce well beyond their primes, and they've done that a couple years too many already.

Cuts
CB Darrelle Revis - I don't see the Chiefs picking up an 8.8 million roster bonus, especially after acquiring Kendall Fuller.
OLB Frank Zombo - Zombo has proved time and again that he's nothing but a special teams guy given that he can't get pressure on the QB.
FS Ron Parker (Designate as Post-June 1 cut) - Parker just doesn't make the plays to justify his contract. He fell to only 4 passes defensed on the season despite the Chiefs having problems at CB#2 all year.
TE Demetrius Harris - It's time for the basketball conversion experiment to end; Harris can't catch a cold.

Let Walk
DL Bennie Logan, P Dustin Colquitt, QB Tyler Bray, CB Phillip Gaines, OL Jordan Devey, DB Steven Terrell, WR De'Anthony Thomas, OL Zach Fulton, CB Kenneth Acker, ILB Ramik Wilson, CB T. Mitchell, FB Anthony Sherman

Estimated Cap Space before signings: $30 m

Re-Sign
DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches - RFA Original Round Tender $1.91 m
ILB Terrance Smith - ERFA Tender $630 k
CB Keith Baxter - ERFA Tender $560 k
ILB Kevin Pierre-Louis - 3 y $3.60 m $1.00 m guaranteed, 2018 ~ $1.10 m
DL Jarvis Jenkins - 2 y $2.50 m $500 k guaranteed, 2018 ~ $1.30 m
WR Albert Wilson - 4 y $14.1 m $5 m guaranteed, 2018 ~ $2.30 m

Total Cost: ~$7.8 m

Free Agents:
LG Andrew Norwell (CAR) - 5 y $60.00 m $30 m guaranteed, 2018 ~$8.50 m
One of the premier guards in the NFL, Norwell should be extremely high on the wish list for the Chiefs. With a young QB, it's best to give him as much protection as possible.
DT Justin Ellis (OAK) - 4 y $16 m $4.5 m guaranteed, 2018 ~$3.50 m
Ellis has been a spot starter for Oakland up until 2017 when he assumed full-time duties where he excelled as a run plugger. The Chiefs don't need to spend $8 m per on a base NT.
QB Austin Davis (SEA) - 2 y $2.2 m, 2018 ~ $1.00 m
Davis proved to be a capable backup but nothing more. He should be had cheap.
WR Deonte Thompson (BUF) - 2 y $2.0 m, ~ 2018 ~ $1.0 m
Thompson is a vertical threat on the field while also possessing excellent quickness. He is also a very good kick returner.
DL Quinton Dial (GB) - 1 y $790 k
Dial was an A quality NT in San Francisco when he started there for 1 season, but he has otherwise been misused. He received only spot duty on his 1-year deal in GB so he should be a cheap pick-up as a rotational player for an odd front.
TE Crockett Gillmore (BAL) - 1 y $790 k + incentives
Gilmore hasn't been able to stay healthy the past two seasons else he probably would have seen an increased role in Baltimore. When he's on the field, he's been solid. He could come fairly cheap on a 1-year prove-it deal.
OLB Jeremiah Attaochu (LAC) - 1 y $790 k + incentives
Attaochu looked like the real deal in 2015 but since then, much like Gillmore above, has been too often injured. He could also be cheap on a 1-year prove-it deal with incentives.

Total Cost: ~$ 16.4 m

Estimated Cap Space after signings: ~$5.8 M

Draft (7th round #s may be incorrect):
2 (54) - ILB Josey Jewell - Iowa (6'1" 236)
3 (78 f/WAS) - OLB Jeff Holland - Auburn (6'1" 249)
3 (86) - FS Armani Watts - Texas A&M (5'11" 191)
4 (124) - DE Andrew Brown - Virginia (6'4" 294)
5 (175* c/ Foles) - CB Taron Johnson - Weber State (5'11" 190)
6 (199) - QB Kurt Benkert - Virginia (6'3" 214)
7 (233 f/ ARZ) - TE Ben Johnson - Kansas (6'5" 245)
7 (235 f/ SEA) - FB Garrett Dickerson - Northwestern (6'2" 248)
7 (243 f/ TEN) - P Corey Bojorquez - New Mexico (6'0" 200)
*Estimate

QB: P. Mahomes, A. Davis, K. Benkert
RB: K. Hunt, S. Ware, C. West
FB: G. Dickerson
TE: T. Kelce, C. Gillmore, B. Johnson
WR: T. Hill, C. Conley, D. Robinson, A. Wilson, J. Chesson, D. Thompson
OL: E. Fisher, A. Norwell , M. Morse, L. Duvernay-Tardif, M. Schwartz, B. Witzman, C. Erving, P. Ehinger
DE: C. Jones, A. Bailey, J. Jenkins, R. Nunez-Roches, A. Brown
NT: J. Ellis, Q. Dial
OLB: J. Houston, D. Ford, J. Holland, T. Kpassagnon, J. Attaochu, D. Nicolas
ILB: J. Jewell, R. Ragland, K. Pierre-Louis, U. Eligwe, T. Smith
CB: M. Peters, K. Fuller, S. Nelson, T. Johnson, K. Baxter, A. Lampkin
DB: E. Berry, A. Watts, D. Sorensen, E. Murray, L. McQuay
ST: H. Butker, J. Winchester, C. Bojorquez
+A truckload of UDFAs and whatnot
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kccrow 01:21 PM 02-10-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Couldn’t agree more with this.

Give me Taven Bryan in round 2. Him and Jones together would be fucking awesome.

If we don’t re-sign Logan, Tim Settle would be a great pick as well.

If we’re going to take an ILB there it better be Leighton Vander Esch.
I highly doubt any of those 3 players are going to be remotely close to available at 54, especially Vander Esch and Bryan. If Vander Esch is there, I'd run to the podium pretty fast. I love all 3 players, and really, wish I could find a way to think any of them will be there but I don't. I think there is a possibility to move up for one, maybe Settle.
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staylor26 01:35 PM 02-10-2018
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I highly doubt any of those 3 players are going to be remotely close to available at 54, especially Vander Esch and Bryan. If Vander Esch is there, I'd run to the podium pretty fast. I love all 3 players, and really, wish I could find a way to think any of them will be there but I don't. I think there is a possibility to move up for one, maybe Settle.
Believe me, I don’t think they should be either, but there’s from what I’ve seen in mocks, on the clock, etc. it seems like a real possibility that one of the following falls to us IMO:

Vander Esch
Bryan
Settle
Reid
Phillips
Jefferson
McFadden

I’m seeing anything from 1st-3rd for most of these guys. There doesn’t seem to be any real consensus on them, and I have a good feeling somebody that should’nt be there will.
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bowener 09:14 AM 02-12-2018
Would Reid and Sutton ever consider building the defense to play with a lead? I'm thinking of how Dungy did it when he had Manning: bad run defense and phenomenal pass rush.

On paper, the Chiefs could have a special secondary if they add another safety. Let Justin Houston go for the sack on every play, and throw some smaller faster LBs out there. Jones already gets an incredible amount of pressure on the QB for a DL. If they are told to go for broke 9 out of 10 times they could force a lot of turnovers in the passing game. This would all hinge on the offense being able to score at will, but it really does look like they have the potential to do so if PM2 is legit.
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Chris Meck 09:18 PM 02-17-2018
this is a rare draft in which I agree with the usual Chiefs homer faithful and declare-
GIVE ME FATTIES!

Seriously. I want DL, I want OL, I want FATTIES. We need DL starters and depth. We need a LG and depth across the line. With Fuller, and hopefully a returning Berry, it's our two areas of greatest need.
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MotherfuckerJones 01:16 AM 02-18-2018
Tim Settle baby!
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Chief Northman 10:04 AM 02-18-2018
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones:
Tim Settle baby!
I almost hope Settle performs average to below average at the Combine/campus workouts. His stock is skyrocketing. Hard to see him available unless you get him bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd round.

He’s damn impressive. Super young too...
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:29 AM 02-18-2018
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
I almost hope Settle performs average to below average at the Combine/campus workouts. His stock is skyrocketing. Hard to see him available unless you get him bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd round.

He’s damn impressive. Super young too...
He’s going to have a great combine I’m sure and be the next Poe. Shoots up boards, doesn’t make it out of night one.

I want him so bad, though. Our defense was never better than when we had Poe in his prime. I think Settle has that potential.

With he, Jones, Houston, Ford, etc... you may have a legit front 4 that can apply pressure consistently. With our revamped secondary, all of the sudden the defense could be a whole lot better.
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staylor26 10:32 AM 02-18-2018
I think there’s a better chance that Taven Bryan makes it to us than Settle.
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RunKC 11:29 AM 02-18-2018
Knowing that this is Andy’s football team and he runs shit, we will most likely draft a DL with our 2nd rd pick. I’m okay with that, but it better be someone that can play in 2018. No more developmental bullshit in the first 2 rounds.
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staylor26 11:45 AM 02-18-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Knowing that this is Andy’s football team and he runs shit, we will most likely draft a DL with our 2nd rd pick. I’m okay with that, but it better be someone that can play in 2018. No more developmental bullshit in the first 2 rounds.
It’s going to be DL or S.

I’m starting to like the chances of Justin Reid making it to 54 a little more.
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RunKC 11:58 AM 02-18-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
It’s going to be DL or S.

I’m starting to like the chances of Justin Reid making it to 54 a little more.
The good news is that this RB class is as strong as last years. There could be at 3-4 taken before us which pushes defensive talent down the board.

Nathan Shepherd is a guy I think they’ll look at. 6’5 300 lbs with room to get bigger. Good prospect but he probably won’t do shit year 1 and we can’t afford that.
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staylor26 12:08 PM 02-18-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
The good news is that this RB class is as strong as last years. There could be at 3-4 taken before us which pushes defensive talent down the board.

Nathan Shepherd is a guy I think they’ll look at. 6’5 300 lbs with room to get bigger. Good prospect but he probably won’t do shit year 1 and we can’t afford that.
I really like Shepherd.

I think him along with R.J. McIntosh and Andrew Brown should be our round 3 targets on the DL. Maybe Kendrick Norton too with our last day 2 pick.
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BryanBusby 01:42 PM 02-18-2018
I'm a Kendrick Norton fan.
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staylor26 01:51 PM 02-18-2018
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
I'm a Kendrick Norton fan.
He’s going to be a good value in that late 3rd-early 4th area.
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O.city 02:23 PM 02-18-2018
Seems like this is actually the year to look at developmental type guys: they’re not likely to content next year so play for 19 and 20
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