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The Lounge>Have we reached critical mass with Reiter and/or Wylie?
DJ's left nut 10:07 AM 12-02-2019
Because those guys were getting mauled. There were a half dozen plays yesterday that simply died at the snap because Reiter and Wylie were immediately pushed into the backfield.

It isn't just about losing a snap, it's about how they're losing theirs (and how quickly). The best you can hope from either of them, especially in the run game, is a draw.

Wisniewski has looked good out there. At the very least, he seems stout at the point of attack. Don't we have to give the guy a look there? As the weather turns and the playoffs arrive, we're gonna HAVE to be able to convert some of these short yardage situations without these long-developing crossers from Hill or the inside screens that teams are largely prepared for now.

I just can't handle watching those two guys get abused anymore. I can handle LDT's mediocre play because at least he's not getting beat immediately and badly. He's not blowing guys off the ball, but he's generally holding his own. But Reiter and Wylie are playing poorly enough that they're smothering some of these plays in the cradle. It's just completely unacceptable.
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jjchieffan 10:59 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I would not mind drafting a top center with our 1st round pick.
Is there even a center out there with a first round grade this year? Let's not reach for need. That's an ElFraud move that leaves you drafting a Garrett Bolles. No thanks.
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TEX 11:00 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Wis shouldíve already been playing. Now Iím worried he never will.

Iíd plug him in at LG where he doesnít have to worry about snapping the ball and can do more to help in pass protection.
Agreed.
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sedated 11:02 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
I would not mind drafting a top center with our 1st round pick.
That seems like overkill considering the position
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MahomesMagic 11:03 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by jjchieffan:
Is there even a center out there with a first round grade this year? Let's not reach for need. That's an ElFraud move that leaves you drafting a Garrett Bolles. No thanks.

It's early but this guy has been talked about in the 1st round where we pick.

Tyler Biadasz C Wisconsin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u97rk3UbBA
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DJ's left nut 11:22 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Andy won't change it unless theres an injury.
I think you're right.

The Mike McGlynn experience has shown that Andy prefers god-awful to untested. He simply refuses to tinker with an OL short of injury.

And that's damn unfortunate.
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DJ's left nut 11:23 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I donít feel panic about it bc Rankin was arguably the best LG in the Andy Reid era and heíll be back next year, but man C is a big problem.

I like Reiter and Wylie, but not as starters. If they are back next year as depth, then thatís fine by me, but holy shit are they not long term options.

It is embarrassing that we could not get about a first down on short yardage. Two shots to get less than a yard should be a win for any team at this level.

Actually it wasnít even a yard. It was half a yard and we couldnít get that in 2 tries.

That is infuriating
And Oakland didn't even have to do anything spectacular to beat us. The ball was snapped and there guys just didn't get moved. At all.

Our stop on 4th down required that Gruden be a complete moron and take his best player off the field so he could run a jet sweep with a mediocre WR. But our short yardage failures were just being physically whuped.
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scho63 11:34 AM 12-02-2019
Slow weak white guys on the OL don't stand a chance.
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oldman 11:42 AM 12-02-2019
Wisniewski is on a 1 year deal, so I wouldn't put a lot of faith in keeping him around for a 10th season. Rankin was a 3rd rounder, so he may be toward the end of his contract. We have a C in waiting, Allegretti, so why draft another with a 1st? What we need to do is draft/sign Gs are Gs, Cs that are Cs, and OTs that are OTs. While I understand that you need guys that can play multiple positions, you need your starting 5 interior guys to play where they're supposed to.
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The Franchise 11:45 AM 12-02-2019
We have that OT that we signed from the Colts practice squad. I wonder where he’s been working in practice.
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O.city 11:46 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I think you're right.

The Mike McGlynn experience has shown that Andy prefers god-awful to untested. He simply refuses to tinker with an OL short of injury.

And that's damn unfortunate.
We need a mauler in the middle somewhere. I really would have liked to have kept Hudson or Morse, but financially, you just gotta do what you gotta do I guess.

They need to really put some early round resources into it.
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DJ's left nut 11:59 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
We need a mauler in the middle somewhere. I really would have liked to have kept Hudson or Morse, but financially, you just gotta do what you gotta do I guess.

They need to really put some early round resources into it.
At times Wylie looked like that guy last year. He had a nasty streak that made me think he could develop into a credible run blocker who may show some struggles in pass pro.

And that just hasn't happened. He hasn't looked to be able to get his top/bottom halves to work together well all year. He looks like a baby deer out there way too often. He's getting beat because he's simply out of sorts - off balance or too high or whatever. And he's getting thrown out of the way.

His technique looks to have just fallen to shit on him.
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O.city 12:01 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
At times Wylie looked like that guy last year. He had a nasty streak that made me think he could develop into a credible run blocker who may show some struggles in pass pro.

And that just hasn't happened. He hasn't looked to be able to get his top/bottom halves to work together well all year. He looks like a baby deer out there way too often. He's getting beat because he's simply out of sorts - off balance or too high or whatever. And he's getting thrown out of the way.

His technique looks to have just fallen to shit on him.
He was at RG last year IIRC. Now he's at LG. I'd imagine it's a bit different.

I'm just tired of the interior OL always seemingly being an issue. Maybe it's just in my head, but IMO, it's high time to start investing up there. A first round G isn't bad.
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KChiefs1 12:53 PM 12-02-2019
OL is pure shit.
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Toad 01:08 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by jjchieffan:
I really believe that Wiley wouldn't have gotten his starting job back if Rankin hadn't gone on IR. But since that happened, we're kinda stuck there. Wisneski has been practicing at center and was studying the all 22 on the sideline last night. It appears that they are about to make that move..
Yep. Romo first joked around saying that he was looking at the internet on the sideline tablet. Then said that studying is what you want your backups to be doing.

I agree that Andy told him to be prepared to jump in. Not sure where, but I think that studying would mean calling line plays at center.
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ChiefBlueCFC 01:12 PM 12-02-2019
If anything, hopefully it is a wake up call to the front office that they probably need to address the interior of the OL in the offseason. No qualms with LDT, but Wylie and Reiter have been undesirable to say the least.

I've seen a few say that Wisnewski (i know that isn't how its spelled,.... i think) should be playing and I'm wondering why he isn't playing because when he played, it seemed like an improvement over who he replaced.

Regardless of what happens the rest of the way, our OL absolutely needs to be addressed via draft/FA... probably draft over FA i'd imagine

I'll hang up and listen off the air
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