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BanHam 06:17 PM 11-30-2019
The State of Virginia, now entirely run by truly insane Democrats who support infanticide and child murder, is proposing a new 2020 law known as SB64 (see link here) which will be taken up by the Democrat-run Senate beginning January 8, 2020.

The law would instantly transform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira.

It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes.

It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle.

Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person:

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”

The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi.

Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts skills which could be used to cause injury to other persons.

In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.

Here is the full text of the proposed law:

https://legiscan.com/VA/text/SB64/id/2070814

This is what happens when Democrats seize power

This insane level of tyranny is happening because Democrats now run the entire legislative and executive branches of the Virginia state government. Governor Ralph Northam — who openly confessed to advocating infanticide and child murder — is leading the charge to turn the great state of Virginia into a modern-day slave camp where no citizen is allowed to defend herself against the tyranny of the local government (which has gone completely insane and is now run by relentless criminals).

This demonstration of blunt force tyranny showcases the real plan of Democrats when it comes to disarming the American people: This was never about “commonsense gun reforms,” you see. In truth, it has always been about criminalizing the very idea of self-defense and self-reliance.

The government of Virginia, honestly stated, doesn’t want you to be able to defend yourself against violent criminals. Why? Because if you had the capacity to do that, you might also be able to defend yourself against the violence of oppressive, corrupt government, too.

When you are living in a state where you can be arrested and imprisoned for taking a self-defense class and learning how to kick, punch or shoot rapists and would-be violent criminals, you are living under a criminal enterprise of political tyranny that must be taken down and defeated.

Not coincidentally, this proposed new SB64 law would criminalize the very assembling of law-abiding citizens who might rise up and challenge the criminal tyrants in Richmond who are busy rigging the system to make sure no Virginian can ever challenge the tyranny of Democrat rule. In effect, Democrats are passing laws to criminalize resistance to tyranny in much the same way that Democrats in Congress are trying to impeach Trump for the “crime” of resisting a political coup.

You are watching a system of tyranny shore up its own defenses against informed citizens, knowing that the corruption of Democrats is so deeply embedded in their authoritarian rule that sooner or later, honest Virginians have both a right and a duty to oppose, defeat and dismantle that system of tyranny by all means afforded the citizens under the Constitution of the United States of America.

The process of transforming Virginia from a patriotic, independent, pro-liberty state (May 15, 1776) into a corrupt, authoritarian slave camp run by filthy left-wing criminals only took 243 years, by the way. And it happened because conservatives and patriots got too apathetic and lazy to take sufficient action to keep tyranny in check. While the citizens slumber in comfort, tyranny is always plotting its next takeover. The GOP of Virginia practically surrendered the state to the Democrats, even refusing to run candidates in many districts during recent elections.

Suddenly, the citizens of Virginia find themselves living under extremist left-wing tyranny. The thing about tyranny is that you can sleep your way into it, but history has shown that you have to fight your way out of it.

Today, Virginians are in the fight of their lives.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-11-...tion-sb64.html
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Donger 03:52 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Jim Hammer:
Apparently some of you have never seen this documentary about citizens fighting off a modern army:

I don't see a single domestic weapon among them.
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frozenchief 03:56 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
Explain it to me then. How will you and your militia fight the government with your guns?
You should research "asymmetrical warfare' or 'fourth generation warfare'. If you want an idea of how it would work in real life, you should read Kurt Schlichter's book Indian Country. A retired Army colonel, Schlichter's book depicts what would happen if the US were to split into two countries. Agreement or disagreement about his politics or what his views of life in the two countries is irrelevant. What is relevant is that he describes just how the Army has taught insurgents in other countries could be applied here.

You think that helicopters are a big problem? Tanks? Drones? They all have weaknesses and those weaknesses can be exploited by those with the will to do so.

As far as whether such a mindset is reasonable? The answer to that is 'yes':

https://medium.com/s/story/the-surpr...r-15fce7d10437
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BucEyedPea 04:08 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Frazod:
Tell that to the Viet Cong. Tell it to the Afghans.

You idiots act like the government would just roll tanks and drop nukes and end everything in a couple of hours.

Imagine how footage of the air force bombing a small midwestern town would play out on CNN, or tanks rolling down southern streets past piles of American bodies.

China has a contemptuous disregard for the lives of their citizens, and even they are reluctant to do the things you morons think the U.S. government would do in a heartbeat to quell rebellion.
One reason I think they have such a "contemptuous disregard for the lives of their citizens" is due to having too many people.
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stevieray 04:17 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
Explain it to me then. How will you and your militia fight the government with your guns?
If you don't know already, I can't help you.
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BucEyedPea 04:25 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by stevieray:
If you don't know already, I can't help you.
I think it's obvious that someone like him, will wind up dead, defending what will be a totalitarian or authoritarian state by then. So it's good he doesn't know or can't figure it out.
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Just Passin' By 04:34 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by stevieray:
If you don't know already, I can't help you.
The best part is that, if his underlying premise is correct (modern guns aren't enough to defend against modern government), he's giving a rationale for demanding that the citizenry be able to procure more effective weaponry, not a rationale for banning or limiting the ownership and use of guns.
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Frazod 04:51 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
One reason I think they have such a "contemptuous disregard for the lives of their citizens" is due to having too many people.
It's not like we don't. And by that I mean the liberal parasites that have ruined all of our major cities.
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Megatron96 04:54 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
75 or something years ago :-) :-)

Either way, Your guns would stop your local law enforcement when they have tanks and swat teams? You could prevent such govt tyranny with your handgun?
Btw, all the small arms available today were essentially available in 1946.

Please list the police forces in the U.S. that currently have tanks in their possession.

Please list the total number of SWAT officers in active service at this time.

Sidenote: it is legal for private citizens of the U.S. to own tanks. And cannon.

The Athens Insurrection:

The fact that you can't or won't understand the significance of Athens is almost tragically short-sighted, but unfortunately very common today in 21st century America. You should make an effort to avail yourself of the facts of the event and try to intelligently discern why Athens is important in American history. I know that you won't, because you've already made up your mind on the subject, and you're so smart you couldn't possibly learn anything new, but I invite you to try anyway out of courtesy.

But I'm completely aware that you and yours have no interest whatsoever in having a truly open-minded discussion or outlook when it comes to the right to bear arms/2nd Amendment etc. That also is your right, however misguided.

Fighting tyranny with a handgun:

A handgun is a defensive weapon. You wouldn't attempt to fight tyranny with one. You need a rifle, one close to or equal to the capabilities of a up-to-date military force/army.

Excerpt from an article concerning this topic:

"At its core, the RKBA is about individual determination and responsibility. The Framers didn't invent it out of whole cloth. They looked to Locke and Hobbes for the natural right of self-defense. They looked to Gibbon for the lesson that standing armies are anathema to a just society. They looked to Blackstone for political concept.

And the idea is simple: deterrence. The usual glib response from the other side is, "oh, how are you going to resist the government when they have drones and tanks and nukes?"

That's a cheap dodge, and it doesn't take into account that well-equipped, superior armies have often met effective, even disastrous, resistance from ad hoc militias. Consider Vietnam, Afghanistan, or even Hadrianople.

(On the other hand, consider the recent situation in Venezuela. Before leaving office, Hugo Chavez banned civilian gun ownership. Everything got turned in. When Maduro took power and encountered protests, he offered "a gun to every militia man." Essentially, he created a national goon squad, who then went on to rob and pillage at will, knowing they'd meet no significant resistance.)"

The point being that the mass murder of millions of people via nukes or whatever will never be the goal of the government. They want to suppress/oppress the People; to control us. That means putting men with rifles on the streets. So long as there are an adequate number of civilians armed with similar rifles/small arms the government can't take the option of using brute military force against its citizens. They simply lack the manpower as long as we are competitively armed at the street level.
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BucEyedPea 05:25 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Frazod:
It's not like we don't. And by that I mean the liberal parasites that have ruined all of our major cities.
Well, that's true but China is much worse. The left aspires to their model.
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BWillie 05:50 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Btw, all the small arms available today were essentially available in 1946.

Please list the police forces in the U.S. that currently have tanks in their possession.

Please list the total number of SWAT officers in active service at this time.

Sidenote: it is legal for private citizens of the U.S. to own tanks. And cannon.

The Athens Insurrection:

The fact that you can't or won't understand the significance of Athens is almost tragically short-sighted, but unfortunately very common today in 21st century America. You should make an effort to avail yourself of the facts of the event and try to intelligently discern why Athens is important in American history. I know that you won't, because you've already made up your mind on the subject, and you're so smart you couldn't possibly learn anything new, but I invite you to try anyway out of courtesy.

But I'm completely aware that you and yours have no interest whatsoever in having a truly open-minded discussion or outlook when it comes to the right to bear arms/2nd Amendment etc. That also is your right, however misguided.

Fighting tyranny with a handgun:

A handgun is a defensive weapon. You wouldn't attempt to fight tyranny with one. You need a rifle, one close to or equal to the capabilities of a up-to-date military force/army.

Excerpt from an article concerning this topic:

"At its core, the RKBA is about individual determination and responsibility. The Framers didn't invent it out of whole cloth. They looked to Locke and Hobbes for the natural right of self-defense. They looked to Gibbon for the lesson that standing armies are anathema to a just society. They looked to Blackstone for political concept.

And the idea is simple: deterrence. The usual glib response from the other side is, "oh, how are you going to resist the government when they have drones and tanks and nukes?"

That's a cheap dodge, and it doesn't take into account that well-equipped, superior armies have often met effective, even disastrous, resistance from ad hoc militias. Consider Vietnam, Afghanistan, or even Hadrianople.

(On the other hand, consider the recent situation in Venezuela. Before leaving office, Hugo Chavez banned civilian gun ownership. Everything got turned in. When Maduro took power and encountered protests, he offered "a gun to every militia man." Essentially, he created a national goon squad, who then went on to rob and pillage at will, knowing they'd meet no significant resistance.)"

The point being that the mass murder of millions of people via nukes or whatever will never be the goal of the government. They want to suppress/oppress the People; to control us. That means putting men with rifles on the streets. So long as there are an adequate number of civilians armed with similar rifles/small arms the government can't take the option of using brute military force against its citizens. They simply lack the manpower as long as we are competitively armed at the street level.
Imagine living your life like this?


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Megatron96 05:59 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Imagine living your life like this?

Ha, the people that live their lives like that are the ones you want to emulate, a la Venezuela, PRC, etc.

Again, you really should learn something about history. Instead of blindly and blithely going about your life with those self-imposed blinders on.
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eDave 05:59 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Btw, all the small arms available today were essentially available in 1946.

Please list the police forces in the U.S. that currently have tanks in their possession.

Please list the total number of SWAT officers in active service at this time.

Sidenote: it is legal for private citizens of the U.S. to own tanks. And cannon.

The Athens Insurrection:

The fact that you can't or won't understand the significance of Athens is almost tragically short-sighted, but unfortunately very common today in 21st century America. You should make an effort to avail yourself of the facts of the event and try to intelligently discern why Athens is important in American history. I know that you won't, because you've already made up your mind on the subject, and you're so smart you couldn't possibly learn anything new, but I invite you to try anyway out of courtesy.

But I'm completely aware that you and yours have no interest whatsoever in having a truly open-minded discussion or outlook when it comes to the right to bear arms/2nd Amendment etc. That also is your right, however misguided.

Fighting tyranny with a handgun:

A handgun is a defensive weapon. You wouldn't attempt to fight tyranny with one. You need a rifle, one close to or equal to the capabilities of a up-to-date military force/army.

Excerpt from an article concerning this topic:

"At its core, the RKBA is about individual determination and responsibility. The Framers didn't invent it out of whole cloth. They looked to Locke and Hobbes for the natural right of self-defense. They looked to Gibbon for the lesson that standing armies are anathema to a just society. They looked to Blackstone for political concept.

And the idea is simple: deterrence. The usual glib response from the other side is, "oh, how are you going to resist the government when they have drones and tanks and nukes?"

That's a cheap dodge, and it doesn't take into account that well-equipped, superior armies have often met effective, even disastrous, resistance from ad hoc militias. Consider Vietnam, Afghanistan, or even Hadrianople.

(On the other hand, consider the recent situation in Venezuela. Before leaving office, Hugo Chavez banned civilian gun ownership. Everything got turned in. When Maduro took power and encountered protests, he offered "a gun to every militia man." Essentially, he created a national goon squad, who then went on to rob and pillage at will, knowing they'd meet no significant resistance.)"

The point being that the mass murder of millions of people via nukes or whatever will never be the goal of the government. They want to suppress/oppress the People; to control us. That means putting men with rifles on the streets. So long as there are an adequate number of civilians armed with similar rifles/small arms the government can't take the option of using brute military force against its citizens. They simply lack the manpower as long as we are competitively armed at the street level.
Man, I can't wait to meet you.
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Jim Hammer 06:10 PM 12-02-2019

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Jim Hammer 06:15 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Donger:
I don't see a single domestic weapon among them.
Well, they started with a couple of rifles and handguns but then they took the weapons from those they killed.

See, these high school kids were much more savvy than the trained soldiers they faced and were able to defeat them regularly with almost no casualties of their own.

Their battle cry sent the enemy fleeing in fear:


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eDave 06:18 PM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Jim Hammer:
Well, they started with a couple of rifles and handguns but then they took the weapons from those they killed.

See, these high school kids were much more savvy than the trained soldiers they faced and were able to defeat them regularly with almost no casualties of their own.

Their battle cry sent the enemy fleeing in fear:

That movie got it so, so wrong. The real invasion is happening now. Right before our eyes, and "Patriots" love it.

Scalp them in the streets.
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