This is an argument I'm having in another thread. Supposedly this hit should have been flagged because Mahomes was heading out of bounds even though he asnt officially out of bounds yet. IMO, there's no way this should be flagged. A player in bounds is a player in bounds and can get hit. As much as I'd love for Mahomes to be protected, objectively there's no way they should call a penalty here.
Also it's weird how people hate the refs but want to add even more subjectivity to how they rule. So now they have to guess if a player is clearly going out of bounds on not? Makes no sense to me but hey...I'm CPs chief contrarian so I may be way off... [Reply]
It's crazy that people are okay with refs determining when a player is "clearly" going out of bounds or not. People hate when refs make judgement calls but suddenly in this case it's okay.
Until a player steps out of bounds, it should be okay to shove them.
You’re continually missing the point.
I agree with your interpretation of the rules. But it doesn’t change the fact that they’ve been calling that UR. If they’re going to call it UR for anybody in the league they goddamned well better call it for my guy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
You’re continually missing the point.
I agree with your interpretation of the rules. But it doesn’t change the fact that they’ve been calling that UR. If they’re going to call it UR for anybody in the league they goddamned well better call it for my guy.
And Everytime someone says this, I ask for one instance that's been called and nobody can show me. How can it be called so often and not one person can give me an example? Just one out of the supposedly multiple times it's been called this season? The only times I've seen it been called, people agreed that it was a bad call. [Reply]
I don't even know how people think this is close. There's clearly a premium placed on protecting the QB. If this is some RB, then yes, I can understand the debate. But a QB?
It was a rough play. And it was clearly unnecessary. And it was against someone who plays the premium position that other teams are actively trying to injure. [Reply]
Hightower slapped Mahomes hand out of the way, and then pushed him hard into the sideline. That should definitely be called. I've seen much nicer pushes get called. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
And Everytime someone says this, I ask for one instance that's been called and nobody can show me. How can it be called so often and not one person can give me an example? Just one out of the supposedly multiple times it's been called this season? The only times I've seen it been called, people agreed that it was a bad call.
I looked for a few minutes on YouTube and couldn’t find anything. Just clips from that shitty Micheal Ohr movie.
But I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it called on WRs that are obviously going out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JakeF:
You would think that Mahomes has a big enough name now to get that call. If it was Brady,Brees,Rodgers is would have been called. Total bullshit.
Hell, I saw Lamar Jackson earlier in the day take a very weak hit and they gave him the flag. He's getting the veteran superstar QB treatment despite the fact he's plenty young and plenty elusive enough to avoid the hits. Doesn't need help from the refs.
Mahomes is young, but has been injured since Quarter 2 of Game 1 this year. You would think the NFL would like to see him able to stay on the field the rest of the season. Apparently not. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
And Everytime someone says this, I ask for one instance that's been called and nobody can show me. How can it be called so often and not one person can give me an example? Just one out of the supposedly multiple times it's been called this season? The only times I've seen it been called, people agreed that it was a bad call.
I mean I know that Philip Gaines made a lot of poor plays on the chiefs but it doesn't mean I can recall them all or find them on game for instantly. [Reply]
Should? No. He was a yard in bounds when contact was initiated.
Is there precedent for calling it? Absolutely, especially when the player's course of travel is direct to the sideline as Pat's was. [Reply]
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
I mean I know that Philip Gaines made a lot of poor plays on the chiefs but it doesn't mean I can recall them all or find them on game for instantly.
Sure, but I can. It's not like I asked just one person and they couldn't recall. I asked anybody that's reading this. If it happens as much as people claim, at least a couple people should remember one interesting they saw it
Jewish Rabbi is the only one given a play and while I don't think Damien Wilson should have been flagged for it, he made first contact AFTER Rodgers had already stepped out. Quite different from the Mahomes play or the Goff play I posted above. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I agree with DaFace on this one...
Should? No. He was a yard in bounds when contact was initiated.
Is there precedent for calling it? Absolutely, especially when the player's course of travel is direct to the sideline as Pat's was.
Again, it’s easy enough for an athletic quarterback to redirect and head upfield even when it looks like he’s going out of bounds. So officially make it a penalty for a QB to redirect and gain yardage in this instance, then it’s legit. It’s too much to ask a defender to have to calculate possible scenarios in his head when things happen in an instant. It’s a pussy shove for crying out loud. It’s football. Now a shove like that in a Cleveland Hotel hallway ... different story. [Reply]
