This is an argument I'm having in another thread. Supposedly this hit should have been flagged because Mahomes was heading out of bounds even though he asnt officially out of bounds yet. IMO, there's no way this should be flagged. A player in bounds is a player in bounds and can get hit. As much as I'd love for Mahomes to be protected, objectively there's no way they should call a penalty here.
Also it's weird how people hate the refs but want to add even more subjectivity to how they rule. So now they have to guess if a player is clearly going out of bounds on not? Makes no sense to me but hey...I'm CPs chief contrarian so I may be way off... [Reply]
I love Nick Wright. He straight up destroyed the Pats fans. Started off by saying that it’s raining in New York this morning but that’s from all the tears of the Pats fans over the past 12 hours than brought up numerous plays where pats should’ve been flagged but didn’t. Also if Belichick didn’t wast a challenge on the Sammy Watkins spot he could’ve challenged the Harry TD. Also Chiefs had almost 100 yards more in penalties yesterday [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Any examples? I asked this in the other thread and somehow the only example someone posted was the Chris Jones penalty on Brady last year. Don't ask me how it relates to this play because I'm still trying to figure it out.
I've literally never seen it called and people not say it was a bad call. Because it's literally a bad call. It's not a subjective penalty at all. A late hit OOB is a late hit OOB. There's no subjectivity that would allow the ref to throw a flag because the player was heading out of bounds.
I just don't know how you can watch more than a game a week and swear to not have seen a play exactly like that get called a penalty.
Whether or not is a bad call is subjective. It's how they call it so it's a good call. I think it shouldn't be but it is. Just like I think a ton of pass interference calls are bad calls but by the rules in place they are good calls. Oh and block in the back calls, like kelce yesterday. If the blocker has his arms extended and the defender falls down it gets called whether or not there was actually a push. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I've never seen a hit like this not called unnecessary roughness on an elite QB. And I can guarantee that if Mahomes was playing a different team in a different context, it absolutely would have been.
These are comments that are so ignorant. No, it wouldn’t have been called simply if he played for a different team and it wasn’t missed because the NFL has some vandeta against the Chiefs. It was a close, missed call. That’s all it is.
The Chiefs were handed this game by the refs, yet people still think the Patriots get all the love. It’s getting Ridiculous [Reply]
Originally Posted by LiL stumppy:
it wasn’t missed because the NFL has some vandeta against the Chiefs.
No...refs have been terrible for at least 2 years. NOT a vendetta against the Chiefs...they are just bad. Even when they can correct a call through a coaches challenge or mandated instant replay...they don't. The NFL must address this.
Originally Posted by LiL stumppy:
The Chiefs were handed this game by the refs,
I agree. BUT....there were so many bad calls. BOTH ways. so. very. bad. [Reply]
10+ years ago, that's never called and no one cares.
Now, it's pretty routinely called, and Mahomes has gotten that call.... and the refs were awful yesterday, so I doubt it's even a "well, if that was Brady yesterday" thing. They were incompetent all around. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I've never seen a hit like this not called unnecessary roughness on an elite QB. And I can guarantee that if Mahomes was playing a different team in a different context, it absolutely would have been.
Last year, Justin Houston hit Andrew Luck much later than this out of bounds in the playoff game. There was no flag and there really could have been one.
These guys aren't playing checkers and at some point, quarterbacks are going to need to start being treated like other runners.
Was it cheap? Yes. Was Mahomes still inbounds? Yes.
To me, it's the selective enforcement based on whom is being hit and whom is doing the hitting that's the problem. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Any examples? I asked this in the other thread and somehow the only example someone posted was the Chris Jones penalty on Brady last year. Don't ask me how it relates to this play because I'm still trying to figure it out.
I've literally never seen it called and people not say it was a bad call. Because it's literally a bad call. It's not a subjective penalty at all. A late hit OOB is a late hit OOB. There's no subjectivity that would allow the ref to throw a flag because the player was heading out of bounds.
I don't have any specific examples because that's kind of like asking for examples of pick plays being called. They happen all the time, but they don't often generate highlights you can easily find online. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I don't have any specific examples because that's kind of like asking for examples of pick plays being called. They happen all the time, but they don't often generate highlights you can easily find online.
Sure. But how is it that literally nobody on this forum can show me one play where it happened? Even though it's not a highlight play, if it happens as often as you guys claimed, at least one person would be able to show me one instance of it being called. Yet nobody can.
There's no way if this happened in the playoffs against Lamar Jackson or someone and they called a penalty people on this forum would be okay with it. Because hitting a player in bounds is not a fucking penalty. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Sure. But how is it that literally nobody on this forum can show me one play where it happened? Even though it's not a highlight play, if it happens as often as you guys claimed, at least one person would be able to show me one instance of it being called. Yet nobody can.
There's no way if this happened in the playoffs against Lamar Jackson or someone and they called a penalty people on this forum would be okay with it. Because hitting a player in bounds is not a fucking penalty.
Because we're not willing to spend hours looking over game film looking for it just to appease you? [Reply]
