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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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petegz28 09:47 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
They were having the same things in Texas about a month ago, now deaths are following.
I guess only time will tell but I have to point out that cases started rising at the same time in Kansas as they did Texas. Both around June 18th.

It isn't like cases started rising in Kansas last week.
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petegz28 09:50 AM 07-22-2020
He more or less said if you want to open schools you have to lock down everything else....
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MahomesMagic 09:52 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://reaction.life/we-may-already...sunetra-gupta/

Good read from the lady at Oxford.
Gupta

Why don’t we get flu pandemics anymore? Because before 1918 there was not sufficient international travel or densities of individuals to keep flu on as the sort of seasonal thing it is now. Pockets of non-immune people would build up, and then they would be ravaged.

That was the pattern until the end of the First World War. Since then, many of these diseases have become endemic. As a result of which we are much more exposed to diseases in general and related pathogens, so if something new comes along we are much better off than we would be if we hadn’t had some sort of exposure to it.

If coronavirus had arrived in a setting where we had no coronavirus exposure before, we might be much worse off. It also seems that in addition to protection against severe disease as a result of exposure to related coronaviruses, some fraction of us seem to be resistant to infection.

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petegz28 09:58 AM 07-22-2020
The head doctor for Ks just kinda shot himself in the foot..

Question posed: why did we see a similar type of increase under lock down as we are now?

Answer: We are testing more

Earlier he stated the rise in cases is not due to increased testing....

Seems kind circular to me
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petegz28 09:59 AM 07-22-2020
He did say the inflammatory disease in the kids is extremely rare....
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Donger 10:19 AM 07-22-2020
To be expected, but it sucks to see deaths go above 1,000 again. Hopefully it's not a trend.
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petegz28 10:59 AM 07-22-2020
KBOE voted 5-5 not to support to delay of starting school so the executive order to delay school failed
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Discuss Thrower 11:00 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
https://reaction.life/we-may-already...sunetra-gupta/

Good read from the lady at Oxford.
:-)
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suzzer99 11:06 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
To be expected, but it sucks to see deaths go above 1,000 again. Hopefully it's not a trend.
Based on cases, deaths should peak in 2-3 weeks.

My little analysis I posted had deaths getting close to 2k/day. I calculated CFR + 28 days based on positivity % in each state - looking backwards to get CFR then extrapolating forward. Basically I came up with a range of CFR+28 of between 5% and 2% - based on positivity rate.

But it starting to look like this wave in FL/TX/AZ is skewing younger as time goes on, so the CFR + 28 days will be lower.
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displacedinMN 11:20 AM 07-22-2020
CV test monday-back today. I am OK. not a surprise.
Lab test completed at Mayo.
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notorious 11:21 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
KBOE voted 5-5 not to support to delay of starting school so the executive order to delay school failed
Thank goodness.

Let the districts decide.
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alnorth 11:21 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Yep though I am wondering how this is all going to work with these multiple vaccines because they all do it differently. So who gets to decide which vaccine a person gets?
That is why these companies are locking in commitments from the government. If they succeed in making an effective FDA-approved vaccine, then we promise to buy X of it.

They are trying to avoid what happened with the Ebola virus, where a company managed to create a vaccine through a lot of effort and money, only to find that the world lost interest and there was no one to sell their vaccine to.
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petegz28 11:24 AM 07-22-2020
the media is all over the joint...

Originally Posted by :
California’s confirmed coronavirus cases have topped 409,000, surpassing New York for most in the nation, according to data from John’s Hopkins University showing Wednesday that California now has about 1,200 more cases than New York.


However, New York’s 72,302 deaths are by far the highest total in the country and nine times more than California’s tally, and its rate of confirmed infections of about 2,100 per 100,000 people is twice California’s rate.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/22/cali...rus-cases.html

However Worldometers shows NY at 436k cases and only 32.6k deaths

CNBC\AP is so ****ing off....there are 35,200 deaths in NY and 72,302 recovered according to Johns Hopkins

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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O.city 11:40 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
:-)
So refutations? The epidemiologist at Oxford is off on?
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TLO 11:49 AM 07-22-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
the media is all over the joint...


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/22/cali...rus-cases.html

However Worldometers shows NY at 436k cases and only 32.6k deaths

CNBC\AP is so ****ing off....there are 35,200 deaths in NY and 72,302 recovered according to Johns Hopkins

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Whooops
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