I'm still sour about Jamaal Charles, then flowers getting knocked out of the Colts playoff game a few years ago. Regular season... Sure. But ending a season on a doctors fuzzy opinion? Yeah, not a fan of that at all.
I'd argue that concussion protocol can make playoff games even more dangerous. We saw with bountygate what lengths a team will go to to knock a player out. What incentive does a DC have to not coach dirty football they can get away with? It's easy to play super dirty without risk of targeting.
Maybe Wentz didn't want to go back in. We know that Jamaal Charles was super pissed years ago that he couldn't. What say you... Is this an nfl rule that needs to be re-thought? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Multiple sources now have confirmed Mahomes only missed one question.
One question, that he probably just forgot the answer to, almost cost us the game.
Shit fucking sucks.
He should have stayed on the ground and got his bearings back. The moment he tried to stand and stumbled, I knew he wasn't coming back in. It would have been a horrible look for the NFL. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
No we'll just see more deaths and broken necks.
More deaths? There have been no deaths from a single injury, and that includes guys who played with leather helmets, or no helmet at all.
Every broken neck I can recall was suffered by a player wearing a helmet, and lowering the head was almost always involved...which wouldn't happen if heads were more exposed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
More deaths? There have been no deaths from a single injury, and that includes guys who played with leather helmets, or no helmet at all.
Every broken neck I can recall was suffered by a player wearing a helmet, and lowering the head was almost always involved...which wouldn't happen if heads were more exposed.
Football is more high speed and high powered than ever. Imagine the Sorensen goal line hit but without helmets.
And you're delusional if you think players are really going to change how they play instantly because they don't have helmets on.
Saying take the helmets off and there will be less head and neck injuries is like saying take seat belts off cars and there will be less car deaths. [Reply]
So, I'm not complaining about mahomes. I totally get that. Even if it wasn't a concussion, not a good look to get him back on the field.
But I still feel the concussion rules need to be re-thought. Just last week two superstar qbs left a playoff game with a concussion. As much as the rule claims to be about player safety you're inviting the next bountygate. A dirty defense can send hatchet men to lay a dirty hit on a qb knowing the huge advantage it gives to the defense. 15, yards or even an ejection are worth it if it hurts or ejects the qb. While I would start mahomes without hesitation it does make me nervous that the bills may play a little more dirty this week knowing our qb situation.
I don't know how you fix that. At the very least, at least expand the rules for sitting players (usually defense) out who cause a concussion. If the rules are going to be extra safe about putting players in concussion protocol then rules for the hitter should be extra strict. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
So, I'm not complaining about mahomes. I totally get that. Even if it wasn't a concussion, not a good look to get him back on the field.
But I still feel the concussion rules need to be re-thought. Just last week two superstar qbs left a playoff game with a concussion. As much as the rule claims to be about player safety you're inviting the next bountygate. A dirty defense can send hatchet men to lay a dirty hit on a qb knowing the huge advantage it gives to the defense. 15, yards or even an ejection are worth it if it hurts or ejects the qb. While I would start mahomes without hesitation it does make me nervous that the bills may play a little more dirty this week knowing our qb situation.
I don't know how you fix that. At the very least, at least expand the rules for sitting players (usually defense) out who cause a concussion. If the rules are going to be extra safe about putting players in concussion protocol then rules for the hitter should be extra strict.
I'm also rethinking players eating when they go to another teams city. A dirty team can just have the hotel/restaurant staff poison the food so the QB is out with food poisoning. Why isn't anyone talking about this?!?? [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
I'm also rethinking players eating when they go to another team. A dirty team can just have the hotel/restaurant staff poison the food so the QB is out with food poisoning. Why isn't anyone talking about this?!??
Wut? Nobody is stopping the players from playing or eating. We're talking about rules to prevent concussion. If a hotel has rules that could help prevent a rogue staff member poisoning someone of course you'd explore it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Wut? Nobody is stopping the players from playing or eating. We're talking about rules to prevent concussion. If a hotel has rules that could help prevent a rogue staff member poisoning someone of course you'd explore it.
I think his point might be that there's the same amount of evidence for people trying to poison Qbs as there is that people are trying to deliberately cause concussions for QBs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Wut? Nobody is stopping the players from playing or eating. We're talking about rules to prevent concussion. If a hotel has rules that could help prevent a rogue staff member poisoning someone of course you'd explore it.
It was a stupid response to your (no offense) stupid post. If the defense is sending "hatchet men" to purposely give Mahomes a concussion, why they hell would they care if those players were suspended. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chargem:
I think his point might be that there's the same amount of evidence for people trying to poison Qbs as there is that people are trying to deliberately cause concussions for QBs.
There is a ton of evidence that the saints were doing that during bountygate. And it wasn't a secret that lots of teams were doing it. Bountygate is especially important because they were rewarded for knocking players out of the game. And in their case, it worked as they knocked Warner out and practically put Favre in a wheelchair during their super bowl run.
I don't think all teams are that dirty. But these days it seems like lots of defenses are putting that little extra. The ravens get away with this shit all the time. You may not plan to put Mahomes in a concussion. But could they be coached to come in a little late or hit with a little extra mustard? Probably. Is the NFL going to be very strict about mahomes concussion protocol if he's even a little slow to get up? Absolutely. So yeah, why wouldn't that motivate a defense to play a little dirtier than usual. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shaid:
He should have stayed on the ground and got his bearings back. The moment he tried to stand and stumbled, I knew he wasn't coming back in. It would have been a horrible look for the NFL.
I don’t know if you’ve ever played contact sports but a big part of the ego behind it, especially when you actually got “your shit rocked” is showing no pain and popping right back up even when you “get your shit rocked”. As competitors we know that a lot of times our egos outweigh our rationale.
