Bunch of old tweets surfaced after some conservative activist outed some of his tweets from 2009-2012 making gross pedophilia jokes. Gunn hates President Trump's guts, so he was targeted by the group.
Somebody else here can post the tweets, as I'm on my phone, but mostly it reads like mindless stupidity, but yeah -- they were totally made in public on Twitter and Gunn works (worked) for Disney now, so.
I've got mixed feelings, but it's hard to argue that Gunn didn't deserve the ax, even though it's going to hurt the quality of one of the best movie properties out there. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I guess the way I see the 'retaliatory' strikes is as a sort of mutually assured destruction, or at least as a harbinger of it.
Look - I'm not going to try to stay completely neutral here. I absolutely think the progressive left started this shit and they are the most frequent drivers of it. But if the right does nothing but stand idly by and get attacked, the left will never back off it. You can logically, neutrally point out its chilling effect on humor, speech, education - everything all day - they won't care. It's blood in the water for them and the social media mob/affirmation is an aphrodisiac.
The only way the left stops punching here is if enough of them get hit back. If they then realize that this shit has an opportunity to truly scorch the earth and make things unnecessarily uncomfortable for everyone, the fight's just gonna be one-sided; conservatives getting punched in the mouth.
It's not a "you did it so I get to do it" thing - it's a "how 'bout you guys see how this is going to hurt YOU as well so NEITHER of us will do it anymore" kind of thing.
These mobs suck. They suck when they happen to conservative pundits, liberal directors, athletes, professors, whatever. They ****ing suck and I want them to stop from ALL sides. But the right trying to sit there and stay above the fray just made them the only folks getting barbecued. If they want this approach to stop, they have to show the other side the possible consequences.
"He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue..."
whats laughable is that a lot of these MCU fans (and the cast of GotG ) are acting like Gunn is some "genius" director. He isn't all that imo. MCU fans acting like he's Christopher ****ing Nolan or something . Gunn is no loss. His writing for the sequel was filled with some cringeworthy lines thru out ("I have famously huge turds" or "Oh! My nipples!" )
He can only blame himself (wasn't a teenager when he tweeted all that bizarre creepy shit). Dude was in his 40s & 50s jfc.
Also, IMO Gunn is easily replaceable (as are ALL the MCU directors). All these fools do is follow Feige's "vision" and profit. There isn't that much creative freedom involved in the MCU/Disney. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
I guess the way I see the 'retaliatory' strikes is as a sort of mutually assured destruction, or at least as a harbinger of it.
I would say that's accurate for most. Not me, but most. I think most see an opportunity to "hurt one of theirs" based on the rules many libs/dems set up. Even though I agree with the stance in this case I absolutely disagree with the tactic.
You don't beat the evil by being more evil.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Look - I'm not going to try to stay completely neutral here. I absolutely think the progressive left started this shit and they are the most frequent drivers of it. But if the right does nothing but stand idly by and get attacked, the left will never back off it.
I'll go even further and state that if this is the preferred tactic of as much as half the right/Reps we all lose. We'll all suffer. This will end with a never-ending vice that squeezes free speech and expression until all individuality is lost forever.
By law.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
It's not a "you did it so I get to do it" thing - it's a "how 'bout you guys see how this is going to hurt YOU as well so NEITHER of us will do it anymore" kind of thing.
Insane people don't respond to pleas for sanity.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
"He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue..."
We are already there.
Look at ANTIFA. What do you think happens to the right if Antifa is allowed to contiue? We'll end up with something even more retarded than the KKK or Neo-Nazis from the right as a response. It's inevitable. It's human nature. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Need to expand on this. I did not purposefully omit Singer. As I said, I can tick off countless examples, but just picked a couple for illustrative purposes.
He's a known pedophile (by definition.)
He's widely known to throw parties where boys as young as 14 are referred to as "party favors."
He isn't shy about it but much like Hollywood Harvey he's got pull and influence.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
First, for all the depths of depravity whispered about his actions, he's been astounding in his ability to keep a lid on it and marginalization of the accusers. The accuser who recanted was a big deal, taking a lot of heat off. But in time Spacey may prove as big a deal, if he finds himself cornered and in danger, rather than simply ostracized.
He's a ticking time bomb, but there's been an absence of smoke/fire/gun. . . . hard evidence.
Second, separate and apart from the question of whether he is guilty of what is whispered about him, he has kept a low profile far away from the cesspool of judgment. It's probably a self-preservation move. But he's largely content to make movies and **** teenage boys in his pool.
As you have mentioned it's only a matter of time before one of those "pool boys" prays the gay away or gets paid $$$ to come forward after offered a TV special and book deal. After that the "legitimate" victims will come forward as well. It's how it always happens... [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
This is a lot of stuff that "sources said," so take it with a grain of salt, but apparently:
Gunn may still make $10m from the film because he didn't breach his contract. (The "offense" happened long before the contract was signed.)
He may be released from all Disney obligations immediately due to the situation, which means...
He could possibly go to another studio pretty much immediately, and a number of them have already called about trying to get him on board. That said...
There are also rumors Disney could even have him back again in the future after the dust settles.
It would be kind of hilarious if he gets $10m from Disney to go to DC and actually fix some of their damn awful movies.
I don't know jack shit about his contract or how Disney does business but on reddit someone was saying that's why Disney may backtrack (like cutting an NFL player right after signing a huge deal with guaranteed money.) [Reply]
Gunn is officially heading to DC. It'll be interesting to see if this ends up being seen as a huge mistake by Disney if he can actually make a good flick in the DC universe.
James Gunn Boards ‘Suicide Squad 2’ To Write And Possibly Direct
James Gunn has been hired by Warner Bros and DC to write with an eye to direct the next installment of the Suicide Squad franchise. It’s the first job he’s taken since he parted ways with Disney, which let him go from the lucrative Guardians of the Galaxy franchise in July in the wake of old controversial tweets that had been compiled by alt-right journalists and sent to Disney.
