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TLO 05:50 PM 09-20-2020
Quite possibly a preview of the AFC Championship game.

Hopefully we can get healthy by Sunday
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Basileus777 10:40 PM 09-20-2020
Well it is a high stakes game. Only one team gets a playoff bye and winning this gives you a big edge on your biggest competitor. Baltimore also has a much easier schedule than KC.
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jjchieffan 10:42 PM 09-20-2020
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Sooner or later it probably will happen. Let's not forget that up until the Chiefs actually won the Super Bowl, people said the same exact things about the Chiefs and Mahomes. Which, as we all know now, was utter BS. The Ravens are a pretty good team and Lamar is a pretty good QB. And they will earn a playoff berth more often than not for the next 3 or 4 or 5 years or more. So it's just smarter to know right now that eventually they will win a playoff game and we probably will end up seeing them in the playoffs.
Until they win one, they are the Chiefs from 1994-2017. A team that looks fierce in the regular season, but can't get it done in the playoffs.
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Titty Meat 10:55 PM 09-20-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Their defense is not on LA’s level IMHO — just saying
They are giving up 11 points a game so far. They dont have the edge rushers but Campbell and Judon are pretty good players their corners are better than the Chargers.

If we play like we did the first half against the Chargers we will lose.
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KChiefs1 12:13 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by jjchieffan:
Until they win one, they are the Chiefs from 1994-2017. A team that looks fierce in the regular season, but can't get it done in the playoffs.

Which means they’ll beat us on MNF & lose in the first round of the playoffs.

That’s typical Marty Ball.
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KChiefs1 12:15 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
The win today felt a lot like the Detroit win last year.

Early season garbage. We’ll be fine.

They lost their next 2 games after that.
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KChiefs1 12:16 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
No update on Watkins yet

His bell is still ringing.
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Molitoth 06:11 AM 09-21-2020
Not confident in this one...
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notorious 06:17 AM 09-21-2020
Having to play opposite coasts on back-to-back weeks after an overtime game will normally result in an L.

This is a Reid team, though. They win a lot of games that go against common wisdom, and lose some that are baffling.
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tredadda 06:22 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
They are giving up 11 points a game so far. They dont have the edge rushers but Campbell and Judon are pretty good players their corners are better than the Chargers.

If we play like we did the first half against the Chargers we will lose.
They have talent on defense no doubt, but is their D-Line good enough to pressure Mahomes without committing extra guys to do it? That’s what the Chargers were able to do as well as the Niners in the SB.
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duncan_idaho 06:41 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
They are giving up 11 points a game so far. They dont have the edge rushers but Campbell and Judon are pretty good players their corners are better than the Chargers.

If we play like we did the first half against the Chargers we will lose.
KC needs to play a crisper 1st half, no doubt.

And as good as Humphrey and Peters are (extremely good, elite pairing), their third CB situation is much, much worse than the Chargers'.

With their slot CB blowing out his knee yesterday, the Ravens will be down to either playing a pretty bad player on the slot, or flipping Humphrey onto the slot and using Jimmy Smith at outside CB. Either option makes them worse overall at CB and worse at S, where Smith had been getting some reps.

It's a much, much different defensive matchup to face than the Chargers.

Judon is good. He's no Joey Bosa. Calais Campbell is good, but he isn't what he once was (and honestly I'm not sure he is better at this point than Jerry Tillery, who was the THIRD-BEST guy on the Chargers' DL yesterday).

It's an incredibly tough matchup, but I'm more concerned with slowing down the Ravens' running game (which seems impossible if Ben Niemann is on the field in base 43 sets) than with being able to move it offensively.
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duncan_idaho 06:44 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by tredadda:
They have talent on defense no doubt, but is their D-Line good enough to pressure Mahomes without committing extra guys to do it? That’s what the Chargers were able to do as well as the Niners in the SB.
Great question.

The Ravens' top 4 "front-line" defenders are:

Calais Campbell
Matthew Judon
Derek Wolfe
Brandon Williams

Calais likely would start, but he'd be the third-best guy, at best, for LAC, and with the way Tillery has come on and how good Linval Joseph is (An underrated addition by the Chargers), that's not a slam dunk anymore.
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wazu 07:06 AM 09-21-2020
The added importance this year of having the 1 seed makes this game feel like almost a playoff game in September.
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OrtonsPiercedTaint 07:11 AM 09-21-2020
Chiefs will be fine, until someone brings up 16-0 again.
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pugsnotdrugs19 07:21 AM 09-21-2020
Baltimore is probably going to have to move Marlon Humphrey to the slot based on everything I’ve read and that isn’t good cause then they’re going to have to provide their best cover corner help a lot as he will see plenty of Tyreek.

Man we need Watkins to get out there for this one but I’m not counting on it. He could roast Peters and run right through him with the ball in his hands. Of course, Hardman might just run away from him anyhow.
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pugsnotdrugs19 07:27 AM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Great question.

The Ravens' top 4 "front-line" defenders are:

Calais Campbell
Matthew Judon
Derek Wolfe
Brandon Williams

Calais likely would start, but he'd be the third-best guy, at best, for LAC, and with the way Tillery has come on and how good Linval Joseph is (An underrated addition by the Chargers), that's not a slam dunk anymore.
It’s pretty scary what the Chargers showed yesterday. I was counting on Tillery being a bust after last year — apparently not.

Their rush is 2019 49ers-ish at this point.
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