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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>****OFFICIAL 2020 Saccopoo CP Mock Draft Thread****
RealSNR 05:34 PM 03-08-2020
START DATE AND TIME: Monday, March 23rd, noon central

RULES:

Spoiler!


Round 1
1. Cincinnati Bengals - chiefscafan - Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
2. Washington Redskins - Chief Northman - Chase Young, EDGE, Ohio State
3. Detroit Lions - Sfeihc - Jeffery Okudah, CB, Ohio State
4. New York Giants - Chargem - Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson
5. Miami Dolphins - Hoover - Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
6. Los Angeles Chargers - Direckshun - Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville
7. Carolina Panthers - staylor26 - Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn
8. Arizona Cardinals - pugsnotdrugs19 - Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama
9. Jacksonville Jaguars - staylor26 - Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina
10. Cleveland Browns - RealSNR - Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia
11. New York Jets - TambaBerry - CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
12. Las Vegas Raiders - RunKC - Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
13. San Francisco 49ers (from Indianapolis) - Direckshun - Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama
14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Rain Man - Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
15. Denver Broncos - Marco Polo - Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
16. Atlanta Falcons - BossChief - Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
17. Dallas Cowboys - chiefscafan - Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU
18. Miami Dolphins (from Pittsburgh) - Hoover - K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE, LSU
19. Las Vegas Raiders (from Chicago) - RunKC - CJ Henderson, CB, Florida
20. Jacksonville Jaguars (from L.A. Rams) - staylor26 - Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU
21. Philadelphia Eagles - Hoover - Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
22. Minnesota Vikings (from Buffalo) - RunKC - AJ Terrell, CB, Clemson
23. New England Patriots - Marco Polo - A.J. Epenesa, EDGE, Iowa
24. New Orleans Saints - KurtCobain - Jacob Eason, QB, Washington
25. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - Yetur Gross-Matos, DE, Penn State
26. Miami Dolphins (from Houston) - Hoover - Josh Jones, OT, Houston
27. Seattle Seahawks - KurtCobain - Terrell Lewis, EDGE, Alabama
28. Baltimore Ravens - Chief Northman - Kenneth Murray, ILB, Oklahoma
29. Tennessee Titans - Sfeihc - Ross Blacklock, DL, TCU
30. Green Bay Packers - RealSNR - Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado
31. San Francisco 49ers - Direckshun - Cesar Ruiz, OG/C, Michigan
32. YOUR Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs! - Rain Man - Zach Baun, LB, Wisconsin

Round 2
33. Cincinnati Bengals - chiefscafan - Grant Delpit, S, LSU
34. Indianapolis Colts (from Washington) - KurtCobain - Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama
35. Detroit Lions - Sfeihc - D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia
36. New York Giants - Chargem - Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama
37. Los Angeles Chargers - Direckshun - Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
38. Carolina Panthers - staylor26 - Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah
39. Miami Dolphins - Hoover - Lloyd Cushenberry, C, LSU
40. Houston Texans (from Arizona) - Chargem - Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
41. Cleveland Browns - RealSNR - Antoine Winfield Jr., S, Minnesota
42. Jacksonville Jaguars - staylor26 - Austin Jackson, OT, USC
43. Chicago Bears (from Las Vegas) - The Franchise - Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State
44. Indianapolis Colts - KurtCobain - Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
45. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Rain Man - Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin
46. Denver Broncos - Marco Polo - Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
47. Atlanta Falcons - BossChief - Marlon Davidson, EDGE, Auburn
48. New York Jets - TambaBerry - JK Dobbins, RB, Ohio State
49. Pittsburgh Steelers - BossChief - Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU
50. Chicago Bears - The Franchise - Robert Hunt, G, Louisiana-Lafayette
51. Dallas Cowboys - chiefscafan - Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
52. Los Angeles Rams - TambaBerry - Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin
53. Philadelphia Eagles - Hoover - Justin Madubuike, DT, Texas A&M
54. Buffalo Bills - The Franchise - Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State
55. Baltimore Ravens (from New England) - Chief Northman - Netane Muti, G, Fresno State
56. Miami Dolphins (from New Orleans) - Hoover - Kyle Dugger, S, Lenoir-Rhyne
57. Houston Texans - Chargem - Neville Gallimore, DL, Oklahoma
58. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State
59. Seattle Seahawks - KurtCobain - Solomon Kindley, G, Georgia
60. Baltimore Ravens - Chief Northman - Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC
61. Tennessee Titans - Sfeihc - Julian Okwara, DE, Notre Dame
62. Green Bay Packers - RealSNR - Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
63. YOUR Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs - Rain Man - Noah Igbinoghene, CB, Auburn
64. Seattle Seahawks (from Kansas City) - KurtCobain - Bryce Hall, CB, Virginia

Round 3
65. Cincinnati Bengals - chiefscafan - Curtis Weaver, DE, Boise State
66. Washington Redskins - Chiefs Northman - Ezra Cleveland, OT, Boise State
67. Detroit Lions - Sfeihc - Joshua Uche, DE, Michigan
68. New York Jets (from NY Giants) - TambaBerry - Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia
69. Carolina Panthers - staylor26 - Jeremy Chinn, S/LB, Southern Illinois
70. Miami Dolphins - Hoover - Cam Akers, RB, Florida State
71. Los Angeles Chargers - Direckshun - Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
72. Arizona Cardinals - DrRyan - Matt Hennessy, OL, Temple
73. Jacksonville Jaguars - staylor26 - Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
74. Cleveland Browns - RealSNR - Logan Wilson, LB, Wyoming
75. Indianapolis Colts - KurtCobain - Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
76. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Rain Man - Lucas Niang, OT, TCU
77. Denver Broncos - Marco Polo - Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
78. Atlanta Falcons - BossChief - Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
79. New York Jets - TambaBerry - Troy Pride Jr., CB, Notre Dame
80. Las Vegas Raiders - RunKC - Terrell Burgess, CB, Utah
81. Las Vegas Raiders (from Chicago) - RunKC - Lynn Bowden, WR, Kentucky
82. Dallas Cowboys - chiefscafan - Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama
83. Denver Broncos (from Pittsburgh) - Marco Polo - Jordyn Brooks, LB, Texas Tech
84. Los Angeles Rams - TambaBerry - Akeem Davis-Gaither, Appalachian State, LB
85. Detroit Lions - Sfeihc - Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan
86. Buffalo Bills - The Franchise - Jon Greenard, DE/OLB, Florida
87. New England Patriots - Marco Polo - Jake Fromm, QB, Georgia
88. New Orleans Saints - KurtCobain - Gabriel Davis, WR, Central Florida
89. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - Javaris Davis, CB, Auburn
90. Houston Texans - Chargem - Bradley Anae, EDGE, Utah
91. Las Vegas Raiders (from Seattle) - RunKC - James Lynch, DL, Baylor
92. Baltimore Ravens - Chief Northman - Jabari Zuniga, EDGE, Florida
93. Tennessee Titans - Sfeihc - Matt Peart, OT, Connecticut
94. Green Bay Packers - RealSNR - Jordan Elliott, DL, Missouri
95. Denver Broncos (from San Francisco) - Marco Polo - Alton Robinson, EDGE, Syracuse
96. YOUR Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs - Rain Man - Ben Bredeson, G, Michigan
97. Cleveland Browns (from Houston) - RealSNR - Ashtyn Davis, S, Cal
98. New England Patriots - Marco Polo - Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota
99. New York Giants - Chargem - Darrell Taylor, EDGE, Tennessee
100. New England Patriots - Marco Polo - Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri
101. Seattle Seahawks - KurtCobain - Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
102. Pittsburgh Steelers - BossChief - Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas
103. Philadelphia Eagles - Hoover - Troy Dye, LB, Oregon
104. Los Angeles Rams - TambaBerry - Willie Gay Jr., LB, Mississippi State
105. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - Jon Runyan Jr., OL, Michigan
106. Baltimore Ravens - Chief Northman - Davon Hamilton, NT, Ohio State

Round 4
107. Cincinnati Bengals - chiefscafan - Damien Lewis, OG, LSU
108. Washington Redskins - Chief Northman - Shane Lemieux, OG, Oregon
109. Detroit Lions - Sfeihc - Ben Bartch, OL, St. John's (MN)
110. New York Giants - Chargem - Van Jefferson, WR, Florida
111. Houston Texans (from Miami) - Chargem - Darnay Holmes, CB, UCLA
112. Los Angeles Chargers - Direckshun - Zack Moss, RB, Utah
113. Carolina Panthers - staylor26 - John Simpson, G, Clemson
114. Arizona Cardinals - DrRyan - Khalid Kareen, EDGE, Notre Dame
115. Cleveland Browns - RealSNR - Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma
116. Jacksonville Jaguars - staylor26 - Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina
117. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Rain Man - Amik Robertson, CB, Louisiana Tech
118. Denver Broncos - Marco Polo - Shyheim Carter, CB/S, Alabama
119. Atlanta Falcons - BossChief - Lamical Perine, RB, Florida
120. New York Jets - TambaBerry - Hakeem Adeniji, OT, Kansas
121. Las Vegas Raiders - RunKC - K’Von Wallace, S, Clemson
122. Indianapolis Colts - KurtCobain - J.R. Reed, S, Georgia
123. Dallas Cowboys - chiefscafan - Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford
124. Pittsburgh Steelers - BossChief - Anfernee Jennings, LB, Alabama
125. New England Patriots (from Chicago) - Marco Polo - Khalil Davis, DT, Nebraska
126. Los Angeles Rams - TambaBerry - Lamar Jackson, CB, Nebraska
127. Philadelphia Eagles - Hoover - Logan Stenberg, G, Kentucky
128. Buffalo Bills - The Franchise - Calvin Throckmorton, G, Oregon
129. Baltimore Ravens (from New England) - Chief Northman - Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
130. New Orleans Saints - DrRyan - Nick Harris, OL, Washington
131. Arizona Cardinals (from Houston) - DrRyan - Jason Strowbridge, DL, North Carolina
132. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - Jack Driscoll, OL, Auburn
133. Seattle Seahawks - KurtCobain - Benito Jones, DT, Ole Miss
134. Baltimore Ravens - Chief Northman - A.J. Green, CB, Oklahoma State
135. Pittsburgh Steelers (from Tennessee) - BossChief - Larrell Murchison, DT, NC State
136. Green Bay Packers - RealSNR - Alex Taylor, OT, South Carolina State
137. Jacksonville Jaguars (from San Francisco) - staylor26 - Alex Highsmith, EDGE, Charlotte
138. YOUR Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs - Rain Man - Eno Benjamin, RB, Arizona State
139. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Rain Man - Leki Fotu, DT, Utah
140. Jacksonville Jaguars (from Chicago) - staylor26 - A.J. Dillon, RB, Boston College
141. Miami Dolphins - Hoover - Darryl Williams, C, Mississippi State
142. Washington Redskins - Chief Northman - James Proche, WR, SMU
143. Atlanta Falcons (from Baltimore) - BossChief - Reggie Robinson, CB, Tulsa
144. Seattle Seahawks - KurtCobain - Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA
145. Philadelphia Eagles - Hoover - Jake Hanson, C, Oregon
146. Philadelphia Eagles - Hoover - Lavert Hill, CB, Michigan

Round 5
147. Cincinnati Bengals - chiefscafan - Jonah Jackson, G, Ohio State
148. Carolina Panthers (from Washington) - staylor26 - Saahdiq Charles, OT, LSU
149. Detroit Lions - Sfeihc - Julian Blackmon, S, Utah
150. New York Giants - Chargem - Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
151. Los Angeles Chargers - Direckshun - Josiah Scott, CB, Michigan State
152. Carolina Panthers - staylor26 - Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
153. Miami Dolphins - Hoover - Rashard Lawrence, DT, LSU
154. Miami Dolphins (from Jacksonville) - Hoover - Markus Bailey, LB, Purdue
155. Minnesota Vikings (from Buffalo) - RunKC - Anthony McFarland RB, Maryland
156. San Francisco 49ers (from Denver) - Direckshun - Michael Ojemudia, CB, Iowa
157. Jacksonville Jaguars (from Baltimore) - staylor26 - Harrison Hand, CB, Temple
158. New York Jets - TambaBerry - Trevis Gipson, DE, Tulsa
159. Las Vegas Raiders - RunKC - Simon Stepaniak OL Indiana
160. Indianapolis Colts - KurtCobain - James Morgan, QB, Florida International
161. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Rain Man - Tyre Phillips, OT, Mississippi State
162. Washington Redskins (from Pittsburgh) - Chief Northman - McTelvin Agim, DL, Arkansas
163. Chicago Bears - The Franchise - Joe Bachie, ILB, Michigan State
164. Dallas Cowboys - chiefscafan - Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU
165. Jacksonville Jaguars (from LA Rams) - staylor26 - Kenny Robinson Jr., S, West Virginia
166. Detroit Lions (from Philadelphia) - Sfeihc - Danny Pinter, OL, Ball State
167. Buffalo Bills - The Franchise - Michael Warren II, RB, Cincinnati
168. Philadelphia Eagles (from New England) - Hoover - Geno Stone, S, Iowa
169. New Orleans Saints - DrRyan - Dane Jackson, CB, Pittsburgh
170. Baltimore Ravens (from Minnesota) - Chief Northman - Brandon Jones, S, Texas
171. Houston Texans - Chargem - Cameron Clark, OL, Charlotte
172. New England Patriots (from Detroit) - Marco Polo - Jacob Phillips, LB, LSU
173. Miami Dolphins (from Baltimore) - Hoover - Collin Johnson, WR Texas
174. Tennessee Titans - Sfeihc - Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin
175. Green Bay Packers - RealSNR - Davion Taylor, LB, Colorado
176. San Francisco 49ers - Direckshun - Tyler Clark, DT, Georgia
177. YOUR Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs - Rain Man - Antonio Gibson, WR, Memphis
178. Denver Broncos - Marco Polo - Carlos Davis, DT, Nebraska
179. Dallas Cowboys - chiefscafan - Anthony Gordon, QB, Washington State

Round 6
180. Cincinnati Bengals - chiefscafan - Carter Coughlin, OLB, Minnesota
181. Denver Broncos (from Washington) - Marco Polo - Antoine Brooks Jr., S, Maryland
182. Detroit Lions - Sfeihc - Quartney Davis, WR, Texas A&M
183. New York Giants - Chargem - Terence Steele, OT, Texas Tech
184. Carolina Panthers - staylor26 - Javelin Guidry, CB, Utah
185. Miami Dolphins - Hoover - Khaleke Hudson, OLB, Michigan
186. Los Angeles Chargers - Direckshun - John Hightower, WR, Boise State
187. Cleveland Browns (from Arizona) - RealSNR - Kalija Lipscomb, WR, Vanderbilt
188. Buffalo Bills (from Cleveland) - The Franchise - Dante Olson, ILB, Montana
189. Jacksonville Jaguars - staylor26 - Justin Strnad, LB, Wake Forest
190. Philadelphia Eagles (from Atlanta) - Hoover - K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio State
191. New York Jets - TambaBerry - Aaron Fuller, Washington, WR
192. Green Bay Packers (from Las Vegas) - RealSNR - Josh Love, QB, San Jose State
193. Indianapolis Colts - KurtCobain - Colton McKivitz, OT, West Virginia
194. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Rain Man - Oluwole Betiku, DE, Illinois
195. New England Patriots (from Denver) - Marco Polo - Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB, Vanderbilt
196. Chicago Bears - The Franchise - Quez Watkins, WR, Southern Miss
197. Indianapolis Colts (from Dallas) - KurtCobain - Kyahva Tezino, ILB, San Diego State
198. Pittsburgh Steelers - BossChief - Trey Adams, OT, Washington
199. Los Angeles Rams - TambaBerry - Dezmon Patmon, WR, Washington State
200. Chicago Bears (from Philadelphia) - The Franchise - Nick Tiano, QB, Chattanooga
201. Minnesota Vikings (from Buffalo) - RunKC - Derrek Tuszka, DE, North Dakota State
202. Arizona Cardinals (from New England) - DrRyan - Nevelle Clarke, CB, Central Florida
203. New Orleans Saints - DrRyan - Nick Coe, Auburn, DE
204. New England Patriots (from Houston) - Marco Polo - Yasir Durant, OT, Missouri
205. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - Myles Dorn, S, North Carolina
206. Jacksonville Jaguars (from Seattle) - staylor26 - Kevin Dotson, G, Louisiana-Lafayette
207. Buffalo Bills (from Baltimore) - The Franchise - Jeremiah Dinson, S, Auburn
208. Green Bay Packers (from Tennessee) - RealSNR - Bryce Huff, EDGE, Memphis
209. Green Bay Packers - RealSNR - Darrynton Evans, RB, Appalachian State
210. San Francisco 49ers - Direckshun - Alohi Gilman, S, Notre Dame
211. New York Jets (from Kansas City) - TambaBerry - Marc-Antoine Dequoy, S, Montreal
212. New England Patriots - Marco Polo - Isaiah Hodgins, WR, Oregon State
213. New England Patriots - Marco Polo - Keith Ismael, OL, San Diego State
214. Seattle Seahawks - KurtCobain - Steven Montez, QB, Colorado

Round 7
215. Cincinnati Bengals - chiefscafan - Darnell Mooney, WR, Tulane
216. Washington Redskins - Chief Northman - Cheyenne O’Grady, TE, Arkansas
217. San Francisco 49ers (from Detroit) - Direckshun - Jake Luton, QB, Oregon State
218. New York Giants - Chargem - Essang Bassey, CB, Wake Forest
219. Minnesota Vikings (from Miami) - RunKC - Kendall Coleman, DE, Syracuse
220. Los Angeles Chargers - Direckshun - Stanford Samuels, CB, Florida State
221. Carolina Panthers - staylor26 - Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island
222. Arizona Cardinals - DrRyan - Jonathan Garvin, Edge, Miami
223. Jacksonville Jaguars - staylor26 - Joe Reed, WR, Virginia
224. Tennessee Titans (from Cleveland) - Sfeihc - Kindle Vildor, CB, Georgia Southern
225. Baltimore Ravens (from N.Y. Jets) - Chief Northman - Dalton Keene, TE, Virginia Tech
226. Chicago Bears (from Las Vegas) - The Franchise - Stephen Sullivan, TE, LSU
227. Miami Dolphins (from Indianapolis) - Hoover - Cam Brown, ILB, Penn State
228. Atlanta Falcons (from Tampa Bay) - BossChief - Francis Bernard, LB, Utah
229. Washington Redskins (from Denver) - Chief Northman - Shaun Bradley, OLB, Temple
230. New England Patriots (from Atlanta) - Marco Polo - Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia
231. Dallas Cowboys - chiefscafan - Levonta Taylor, DB, Florida State
232. Pittsburgh Steelers - BossChief - Josiah Coatney, DL, Ole Miss
233. Chicago Bears - The Franchise - Tyrie Cleveland, WR, Florida
234. Los Angeles Rams - TambaBerry - Michael Onwenu, OG, Michigan
235. Detroit Lions (from Philadelphia) - Sfeihc - James Smith-Williams, DE, North Carolina St.
236. Green Bay Packers (from Buffalo) - RealSNR - Charlie Heck, OT, North Carolina
237. Tennessee Titans (from New England) - Sfeihc - Kamal Martin, LB, Minnesota
238. New York Giants (from New Orleans) - Chargem - Kenny Willekes, EDGE, Michigan State
239. Buffalo Bills (from Minnesota) - The Franchise - Shaquille Quarterman, LB, Miami
240. Houston Texans - Chargem - Evan Weaver, LB, California
241. New England Patriots (from Seattle) - Marco Polo - Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
242. Green Bay Packers (from Baltimore) - RealSNR - John Reid, CB, Penn State
243. Tennessee Titans - Sfeihc - Darius Anderson, RB, TCU
244. Cleveland Browns (from Green Bay) - RealSNR - Tremayne Anchrum, G, Clemson
245. San Francisco 49ers - Direckshun - Patrick Taylor, RB, Memphis
246. Miami Dolphins (from Kansas City) - Hoover - Jace Whittaker, CB, Arizona
247. New York Giants - Chargem - Kyle Murphy, OL, Rhode Island
248. Houston Texans - Chargem - Josiah Deguara, TE, Cincinnati
249. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - Aaron Parker, WR, Rhode Island
250. Houston Texans - Chargem - Bravvion Roy, DL, Baylor
251. Miami Dolphins - Hoover - Javon Leake, RB, Maryland
252. Denver Broncos - Marco Polo - Nate Stanley, QB, Iowa
253. Minnesota Vikings - RunKC - Sean McKeon, TE, Michigan
254. Denver Broncos - Marco Polo - Robert Windsor, DT, Penn State
255. New York Giants - Chargem - Justin Herron, OT, Wake Forest
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Rain Man 01:22 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Yea he would’ve been at the top of my board for the Chiefs if Baun was gone.
Would you have taken him over Diggs? Those were the two CBs I was considering. Pretty much every ranking showed Diggs higher, but when I'd read the descriptions I preferred Johnson.
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DJ's left nut 01:28 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by chiefscafan:
The Cincinnati Bengals select Grant Delpit safety LSU


Will write later
This is who I'd have taken for the Chiefs.

He's so multi-faceted and so talented that you can run any scheme imaginable w/ him, Thornhill and Mathieu back there. And Mathieu is a cap casualty likely as soon as next season (if Jones is retained...maybe even if he isn't) at which time Delpit and Thornhill would still give you a dynamic pair of young safeties.

It isn't that I dislike Baun at all - I don't. I think he's a nice player. But I think he's a lower ceiling guy at a position we're perhaps overvaluing (I don't think he develops into the sort of 3-down Mike we're looking for; a Bobby Wagner kind of guy).

He's safe and steady as the sunrise. But if Delpit were there, I couldn't pass on him. He just brings too much to the table, IMO. You get a talent like that in your defensive backfield and you'll find a way to make him a difference-maker.
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RunKC 02:07 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
This is who I'd have taken for the Chiefs.

He's so multi-faceted and so talented that you can run any scheme imaginable w/ him, Thornhill and Mathieu back there. And Mathieu is a cap casualty likely as soon as next season (if Jones is retained...maybe even if he isn't) at which time Delpit and Thornhill would still give you a dynamic pair of young safeties.

It isn't that I dislike Baun at all - I don't. I think he's a nice player. But I think he's a lower ceiling guy at a position we're perhaps overvaluing (I don't think he develops into the sort of 3-down Mike we're looking for; a Bobby Wagner kind of guy).

He's safe and steady as the sunrise. But if Delpit were there, I couldn't pass on him. He just brings too much to the table, IMO. You get a talent like that in your defensive backfield and you'll find a way to make him a difference-maker.
I can’t see them getting rid of Matheiu. He’s the leader of the defense and his presence alone changes everything.
I think they’ll push his money back in an extension and get rid of other high priced casualties instead like LDT, Fisher and Hitchens.

In fact, I think they’ll draft replacements for at least 2 of them this year and let them go in 2021.

This is a sneaky good OT class and I can see Andy drafting one as early as 64 if one of them is there.
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DJ's left nut 02:18 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I can’t see them getting rid of Matheiu. He’s the leader of the defense and his presence alone changes everything.
I think they’ll push his money back in an extension and get rid of other high priced casualties instead like LDT, Fisher and Hitchens.

In fact, I think they’ll draft replacements for at least 2 of them this year and let them go in 2021.

This is a sneaky good OT class and I can see Andy drafting one as early as 64 if one of them is there.
Yeah, he's undeniably a great candidate for an extension. The deal always looked like something of a 2-year contract w/ a window to revise in year 3.

But man, he'll have a LOT of leverage in those discussions and may not be overly eager to really bargain. 2021 will be his age 29 season and I can't imagine you'd be eager to push him much past 30 as a top of the market safety. That's just a real risky bet.

So if you approach him in 2021 and look to turn that $14 million base into a 3 year extension, how do you make it palatable for him? Convert $12 million of it into bonus w/ a $2 million base salary? Kicks $8 million into 2022 and 2023 as pro-rated cap, brings his cap hit down to about $7 million for 2021. Toss a $13 million base in for 2022 and $17 million base for 2023? Leaving a cap hit of $17 million for 2022 and 20 million for 2023 (knowing full well he won't see it)?

I'd say that borders on team friendly and it's STILL possible he wouldn't bite. And frankly it only kicks the can 1 year down the road (sees a $17 million cap figure in 2022 instead of $16.3 in 2021) while creating an $4 million dead cap charge for 2023.

There's just so many guys we'd "like to keep" that it's hard to see it happening. The cap just isn't structured to let teams hold onto 5-6 guys at/near the top of their respective markets. With Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, Clark, Jones and Mathieu....cap just isn't designed to let teams do that for any appreciable period of time.
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staylor26 03:16 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
Would you have taken him over Diggs? Those were the two CBs I was considering. Pretty much every ranking showed Diggs higher, but when I'd read the descriptions I preferred Johnson.
Yea. He’s just more consistent/safe and ready to start day 1, which is what we need.
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RealSNR 03:43 PM 03-26-2020
This is where the Browns I think would attempt to trade down and let the board fall into place so that they don't have to make as much of a difficult choice. There's like 5 different directions they could go.

They went boring and safe with their first pick, and you know what? The Browns could use boring and safe. They really could. If they had some boring and safe last year I think they could have won a couple more games.

They get an NFL-ready starter with a bright future and a brilliant resume at perhaps their greatest positional need. Yeah, they could go with higher ceiling players at other positions, but this is honestly exactly what they need right now.

The Cleveland Browns select Antoine Winfield Jr., S, Minnesota
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KurtCobain 03:47 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
This is where the Browns I think would attempt to trade down and let the board fall into place so that they don't have to make as much of a difficult choice. There's like 5 different directions they could go.

They went boring and safe with their first pick, and you know what? The Browns could use boring and safe. They really could. If they had some boring and safe last year I think they could have won a couple more games.

They get an NFL-ready starter with a bright future and a brilliant resume at perhaps their greatest positional need. Yeah, they could go with higher ceiling players at other positions, but this is honestly exactly what they need right now.

The Cleveland Browns select Antoine Winfield Jr., S, Minnesota
Damn good pick.
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The Franchise 04:06 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
This is where the Browns I think would attempt to trade down and let the board fall into place so that they don't have to make as much of a difficult choice. There's like 5 different directions they could go.

They went boring and safe with their first pick, and you know what? The Browns could use boring and safe. They really could. If they had some boring and safe last year I think they could have won a couple more games.

They get an NFL-ready starter with a bright future and a brilliant resume at perhaps their greatest positional need. Yeah, they could go with higher ceiling players at other positions, but this is honestly exactly what they need right now.

The Cleveland Browns select Antoine Winfield Jr., S, Minnesota
You fucking asshole.
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staylor26 04:16 PM 03-26-2020
The Jacksonville Jaguars select Austin Jackson, OT, USC

The Jags are thrilled to get a guy that was on their short list for 20 here.
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KurtCobain 04:22 PM 03-26-2020
The Indianapolis Colts are getting very excited right now.
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The Franchise 04:29 PM 03-26-2020
The Chicago Bears select Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State
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staylor26 04:35 PM 03-26-2020
Loving my Jags draft so far:

1. Javon Kinlaw
20. Jeff Gladney
42. Austin Jackson
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KurtCobain 04:44 PM 03-26-2020
Indy selects Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson. And we couldn't be happier. Going into the draft we had Higgins and Diggs as our top targets at number 34 and got them both.
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chiefscafan 04:46 PM 03-26-2020
Damn that’s who I liked good pick on higgins
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The Franchise 04:48 PM 03-26-2020
Originally Posted by KurtCobain:
Indy selects Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson. And we couldn't be happier. Going into the draft we had Higgins and Diggs as our top targets at number 34 and got them both.
I almost took him for the Bears but they have Fuller and absolute dick at CB.
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