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The Dumbass Lounge>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 08:31 PM 09-21-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Fauci is a doctor? Just like all the doctors saying HQC works?
Yes, he's one of our leading infectious disease experts.
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KCUnited 06:23 AM 09-22-2020
https://www.dupageco.org/Coroner/Cor...ws/2020/63473/

RICHARD A. JORGENSEN, MD, FACS
CORONER
DU PAGE COUNTY, ILLINOIS

PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Thursday, September 17, 2020
Public Safety Announcement: Surge in Suicide Deaths Review First 6 Months of 2020.

DuPage County Coroner Richard Jorgensen, M.D. reports data indicating an alarming increase in suicidal deaths in DuPage County. This Public Service Announcement is a report after an in-depth review of all deaths due to suicidal deaths in the first six (6) months of 2020, during the onset of COVID-19 “shelter at home” compared to the same period in 2019.

A thorough investigation and review of every suicide case has been undertaken to understand the circumstances and cause of this rise in suicide deaths. Personal, demographic and toxicological information was collected and reviewed to identify trends on who and how these overdoses occurred in the hope of fostering a better understanding of the problem and identifying potential solutions both on a personal and societal level.

Suicide Death Data:
Overall Deaths 1/1/2019-6/30/2019: -44

Overall Deaths 1/1/2020-6/30/2020: -54 (22.7% increase)

Pre Covid-19 Lockdown (76 days 42% of the time) = 20 suicides (37% of deaths)

Post Covid-19 Lockdown (105 days 58% of the time) = 34 suicides (67% of deaths)

Age
<19 -1

20-29 -11

30-39 -6

40-49 -9

50-59 -10

60-69 -9

70-79 -5

80+ -3

Sex:
Male -43 (80%)

Female -11 (20%)

Ethnicity:
(Numbers in parenthesis are DuPage County census data)

Caucasian (77.9%): #-44 = 81.5 %

Black* (4.6%) #-3 = 5.5 %

Hispanic (13.3%): # 2- =3.7 %

Asian (10.1%) #-5 = 9.2 %

In summary, the number of suicidal deaths have increased by 22.7% over the same period in 2019. The majority of this increase was during the “Shelter at Home” COVID-19 period. There were 20 suicides in the Pre-COVID time frame. During the COVID quarantine there were 34 deaths. The age data reveals a peak in the 20s and another in the 50s. However, there were 5 (five) persons in their 70s and 3 (three) in their 80’s. The ethnic background roughly parallels the makeup of DuPage County as cited in the 2010 census report. Males were approximately 80% of those who died.

Dr Jorgensen stated “Evaluation of each case reveals a common thread. Almost every case of suicide revealed that the deceased person had a history of mental health issues, depression, personal, financial or marital problems, previous drug dependence or rehabilitation or were divorced, never married or living alone. It is suggested by these findings that the most vulnerable in our society are being affected negatively by the COVID-19 shutdown and response to isolation and lack of treatment availability.

Coroner Jorgensen concludes : “It appears that an unforeseen collateral consequence of the stresses of “Shelter at Home” which resulted in isolation, lack of community and companionship is taking its toll on the most vulnerable of our society. If you know of people who are at high risk: known drug users those in rehabilitation, persons living alone, having personal, financial or marital difficulty, mental health issues or depression, please reach out (you can still wear masks and social distance) and talk to them and see if they need companionship, support or help. These are difficult times made worse when an individual has mental health, depression or addiction issues. We are all in this together and need to reach out to all of those who are vulnerable in this difficult time. “
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loochy 06:33 AM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
https://www.dupageco.org/Coroner/Cor...ws/2020/63473/

RICHARD A. JORGENSEN, MD, FACS
CORONER
DU PAGE COUNTY, ILLINOIS

PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Thursday, September 17, 2020
Public Safety Announcement: Surge in Suicide Deaths Review First 6 Months of 2020.

DuPage County Coroner Richard Jorgensen, M.D. reports data indicating an alarming increase in suicidal deaths in DuPage County. This Public Service Announcement is a report after an in-depth review of all deaths due to suicidal deaths in the first six (6) months of 2020, during the onset of COVID-19 “shelter at home” compared to the same period in 2019.

A thorough investigation and review of every suicide case has been undertaken to understand the circumstances and cause of this rise in suicide deaths. Personal, demographic and toxicological information was collected and reviewed to identify trends on who and how these overdoses occurred in the hope of fostering a better understanding of the problem and identifying potential solutions both on a personal and societal level.

Suicide Death Data:
Overall Deaths 1/1/2019-6/30/2019: -44

Overall Deaths 1/1/2020-6/30/2020: -54 (22.7% increase)

Pre Covid-19 Lockdown (76 days 42% of the time) = 20 suicides (37% of deaths)

Post Covid-19 Lockdown (105 days 58% of the time) = 34 suicides (67% of deaths)

Age
<19 -1

20-29 -11

30-39 -6

40-49 -9

50-59 -10

60-69 -9

70-79 -5

80+ -3

Sex:
Male -43 (80%)

Female -11 (20%)

Ethnicity:
(Numbers in parenthesis are DuPage County census data)

Caucasian (77.9%): #-44 = 81.5 %

Black* (4.6%) #-3 = 5.5 %

Hispanic (13.3%): # 2- =3.7 %

Asian (10.1%) #-5 = 9.2 %

In summary, the number of suicidal deaths have increased by 22.7% over the same period in 2019. The majority of this increase was during the “Shelter at Home” COVID-19 period. There were 20 suicides in the Pre-COVID time frame. During the COVID quarantine there were 34 deaths. The age data reveals a peak in the 20s and another in the 50s. However, there were 5 (five) persons in their 70s and 3 (three) in their 80’s. The ethnic background roughly parallels the makeup of DuPage County as cited in the 2010 census report. Males were approximately 80% of those who died.

Dr Jorgensen stated “Evaluation of each case reveals a common thread. Almost every case of suicide revealed that the deceased person had a history of mental health issues, depression, personal, financial or marital problems, previous drug dependence or rehabilitation or were divorced, never married or living alone. It is suggested by these findings that the most vulnerable in our society are being affected negatively by the COVID-19 shutdown and response to isolation and lack of treatment availability.

Coroner Jorgensen concludes : “It appears that an unforeseen collateral consequence of the stresses of “Shelter at Home” which resulted in isolation, lack of community and companionship is taking its toll on the most vulnerable of our society. If you know of people who are at high risk: known drug users those in rehabilitation, persons living alone, having personal, financial or marital difficulty, mental health issues or depression, please reach out (you can still wear masks and social distance) and talk to them and see if they need companionship, support or help. These are difficult times made worse when an individual has mental health, depression or addiction issues. We are all in this together and need to reach out to all of those who are vulnerable in this difficult time. “
all of those count as COVID deaths
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O.city 07:35 AM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Appreciate it guys

Seems the rest of the family that has it has pretty much recovered at this point
Well, maybe they aren't all recovered. Hopefully this issue isn't a covid one though but appreciate all the good thoughts and prayers guys.
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Baby Lee 02:21 PM 09-22-2020
New England Journal of Medicine with the save.

Even if masks AREN'T effective, they reduce anxiety.

And as we know, anxiety is a notorious viral vector.
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TLO 02:25 PM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
New England Journal of Medicine with the save.

Even if masks AREN'T effective, they reduce anxiety.

And as we know, anxiety is a notorious viral vector.
As someone with pretty extensive anxiety, let me be the first to say...

BULL-SHIT
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KCrockaholic 03:19 PM 09-22-2020
Ya the masks don't reduce anxiety at all. If anything it makes it worse. Just speaking from my own personal experience with them.
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petegz28 03:55 PM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
As someone with pretty extensive anxiety, let me be the first to say...

BULL-SHIT
Masks are magic...they save everyone from everything!!! :-)
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stumppy 04:57 PM 09-22-2020
200,000 is a fucking crime.
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O.city 05:19 PM 09-22-2020
Well, wife’s great aunt that tested positive last week was admitted this morning after having a heart attack last night. She’s been asymptomatic thru the whole thing but I’m guessing the stress of her brother passing suddenly from COVID caused some stress

Fuck man this is rough
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suzzer99 05:33 PM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Well, wife’s great aunt that tested positive last week was admitted this morning after having a heart attack last night. She’s been asymptomatic thru the whole thing but I’m guessing the stress of her brother passing suddenly from COVID caused some stress

**** man this is rough
Jesus, I'm sorry.
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IA_Chiefs_fan 05:55 PM 09-22-2020
I'm so sorry O.city :-(
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Bob Dole 05:59 PM 09-22-2020
Someone I know had a good observation today. Went in some store pushing flu shots. If the masks protect us from COVID, shouldn’t they also protect us from the flu ?
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TLO 06:00 PM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Well, wife’s great aunt that tested positive last week was admitted this morning after having a heart attack last night. She’s been asymptomatic thru the whole thing but I’m guessing the stress of her brother passing suddenly from COVID caused some stress

**** man this is rough
I don't have the words. I'm so sorry.

PM me if you need to chat. I don't know what I can offer but a listening ear, but would be glad to do so.
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TLO 06:01 PM 09-22-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
Someone I know had a good observation today. Went in some store pushing flu shots. If the masks protect us from COVID, shouldn’t they also protect us from the flu ?
Yes. They will have a positive impact on our flu season. If enough people are wearing masks that is.
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