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The Dumbass Lounge>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BigCatDaddy 01:40 PM 05-11-2020
Stem Cells?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/hea...XGuPQTAMT6KqS4
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Donger 01:41 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...worried-about/

This is the coronavirus math that has experts so worried: Running out of ventilators, hospital beds
You left off this part:

For weeks now, America’s leaders and its public have been obsessed with one set of numbers: How many people have died? How many confirmed cases? And in what states?

But to understand why experts are so alarmed and what may be coming next, the public needs to start paying attention to a whole other set of numbers: How many ventilators do we have in this country? How many hospital beds? How many doctors and nurses? And most importantly, how many sick people can they all treat at the same time?


It was never mostly about overrunning hospitals.
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petegz28 01:41 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Sure, I could pull up the briefing where a certain person went on about number of deaths, and that's why the guidelines were introduced.

But, do I really need to do that?
Donger this is basic math..

Prevent run on hospitals by slowing the spread so when people do go to the hospitals there are resources to address them and people are not dying from a lack of resources.

It's plain and simple. Go away now.
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petegz28 01:42 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
You left off this part:

For weeks now, America’s leaders and its public have been obsessed with one set of numbers: How many people have died? How many confirmed cases? And in what states?

But to understand why experts are so alarmed and what may be coming next, the public needs to start paying attention to a whole other set of numbers: How many ventilators do we have in this country? How many hospital beds? How many doctors and nurses? And most importantly, how many sick people can they all treat at the same time?


It was never mostly about overrunning hospitals.
Nope, :-) never was......:-)
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SAUTO 01:42 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
"May" is the key word there. and thats from 2-28.


why dont you post dr. fauci's quote?
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Donger 01:42 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
you can post whatever you want but you are flat out wrong about the primary goal of the shut down. It was to protect the hospitals. Sorry if you don't agree but that's your problem.
Do you recall Dr. Birx' briefing, or not?

Do you agree that if you don't get infected, you don't go to hospital, or die?

I know the agenda at work here, but you don't get to change history (or logic) because of that agenda.
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Donger 01:44 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Nope, :-) never was......:-)
Thanks for the article, actually. It shows I'm correct.

For weeks now, America’s leaders and its public have been obsessed with one set of numbers: How many people have died? How many confirmed cases?
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staylor26 01:45 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Thanks for the article, actually. It shows I'm correct.

For weeks now, America’s leaders and its public have been obsessed with one set of numbers: How many people have died? How many confirmed cases?
But that says leaders and public?

We’re talking about what the experts said, which is the part Pete bolded. Good god.
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Donger 01:46 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Donger this is basic math..

Prevent run on hospitals by slowing the spread so when people do go to the hospitals there are resources to address them and people are not dying from a lack of resources.

It's plain and simple. Go away now.
And how does social distancing play affect that, pete? It's almost like if people don't get the virus, they don't go to hospital. And die. Eh?

We locked down to minimize infections. Which prevents hospital overruns, Which minimizes deaths.

It's not hard to figure out.
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petegz28 01:46 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
"May" is the key word there. and thats from 2-28.


why dont you post dr. fauci's quote?
I didn't know he was the gospel....

You guys can say what you want, everyone in their brother knows the primary reason for the initial shut down was to slow the spread so we didn't run out of resources.

Spin away with whatever you want.....I am done with this specific topic for the day.
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Donger 01:47 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
But that says leaders and public?

We’re talking about what the experts said, which is the part Pete bolded. Good god.
Dr. Birx and Fauci have both made it clear that they wanted to minimize infections. That's the start. Everything else flows from that.

Someone posted a quote from Fauci on that.

It's just common sense.
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staylor26 01:47 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
You left off this part:

For weeks now, America’s leaders and its public have been obsessed with one set of numbers: How many people have died? How many confirmed cases? And in what states?

But to understand why experts are so alarmed and what may be coming next, the public needs to start paying attention to a whole other set of numbers: How many ventilators do we have in this country? How many hospital beds? How many doctors and nurses? And most importantly, how many sick people can they all treat at the same time?


It was never mostly about overrunning hospitals.
Who gives a fuck about what the leaders and the public were obsessed with?

We’re talking about what the experts were giving as the justification for shutting everything down and it’s literally right there.
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Donger 01:49 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Who gives a **** about what the leaders and the public were obsessed with?

We’re talking about what the experts were giving as the justification for shutting everything down and it’s literally right there.
Yes, it is. Dr. Fauci:

“If you look at the curves of outbreaks, you know, they go up big peaks, and then they come down. What we need to do is flatten that down,” he has said publicly. “That would have less people infected. That would, ultimately, have less deaths.”
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Donger 01:50 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Who gives a **** about what the leaders and the public were obsessed with?

We’re talking about what the experts were giving as the justification for shutting everything down and it’s literally right there.
And, you should re-read those two paragraphs again. They were alarmed about both.
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staylor26 01:50 PM 05-11-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yes, it is. Dr. Fauci:

“If you look at the curves of outbreaks, you know, they go up big peaks, and then they come down. What we need to do is flatten that down,” he has said publicly. “That would have less people infected. That would, ultimately, have less deaths.”
But if hospitals aren’t being overrun then the # of infections and the mortality rate do not justify a prolonged shut down.

It’s really that simple but you’re dancing around it.
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