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The Dumbass Lounge>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BigRedChief 12:30 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I would imagine that all of these larger companies that benefited from the SBA loans have had DBA's and shell companies on the books for years.

And companies like Ruth's Chris are international, making their loan even less important.
like OTWP58 said, Im sure that these loopholes are not flaws in the system or faulty legal language, but a feature.
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dirk digler 12:37 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
Yep. Could even be up to 1500 in some instances.


Totally ridiculous IMO

Seems to me it would be really easily to put in the language that if you employ over 50 or maybe 100 you don't qualify.
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patteeu 12:47 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
I thought the whole point of "flatten the curve" was to make the "peak" lower (like near what it is now) but drag it out over a super long period of time. It doesn't mean that any fewer total people will get infected. Doesn't that imply that we will keep what is going on now indefinitely?
It kind of implies that fewer people will be infected in the long run* and the whole purpose of flattening the curve is to reduce deaths and other undesirable impacts of overtaxing hospitals.

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* If there will be a vaccine at some specified point in the future, flattening the curve not only protects hospitals, but by deferring infections it also pushes some of them past the point of vaccine availability whent he who equation of the curve changes for the better.
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Discuss Thrower 12:49 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Seems to me it would be really easily to put in the language that if you employ over 50 or maybe 100 you don't qualify.
And then you have millions more overloading state and federal unemployment resources than there already has been.
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SAUTO 12:51 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I though they said they were going to try and report them backwards to the dates they thought they happened or something? Meh, we will see how it goes tonight. Maybe they are back to 2 times a day?
Not sure. I found this which if Im not reading it wrong says those are new numbers


On April 15, in the daily press briefing, New York Governor Cuomo said that "we will begin reporting all categories of fatalities pursuant to new CDC guidelines and are contacting facilities to get updated numbers." He also added that there may be additional people who died that have not been counted because not in a hospital. In the April 15 update, the New York State Department of Health official website had still not included (nor reported separately) the additional "probable" deaths reported by New York City the day before. On April 16, when asked about the issue, New York State officials commented on their decision to not add the New York City probable deaths in the official State count saying that probable deaths have been reported by New York City in a new and separate category, without adding the two numbers (confirmed and probable) together into a single category.
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DaneMcCloud 12:55 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
And then you have millions more overloading state and federal unemployment resources than there already has been.
So, you really think that a company like Ruth's Chris, which has around 150 locations worldwide, is going to use that $20 million to pay their chefs, kitchen workers, bartenders and waitresses, while their employees collect unemployment?
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SAUTO 01:00 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
So, you really think that a company like Ruth's Chris, which has around 150 locations worldwide, is going to use that $20 million to pay their chefs, kitchen workers, bartenders and waitresses, while their employees collect unemployment?
They can also pay themselves prorated up to 100k per year...
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DaneMcCloud 01:02 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
They can also pay themselves prorated up to 100k per year...
Yep, they received the loan because they could, not because it was necessary
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lewdog 01:04 PM 04-16-2020
Who’s doing cocaine?!?!?!?!!
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dirk digler 01:06 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
And then you have millions more overloading state and federal unemployment resources than there already has been.

I assume this is going off the SBA's definition of small business? If that is the case according to the SBA 99.7% of all business are small. Well no wonder it ran out of money,
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petegz28 01:08 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Whos doing cocaine?!?!?!?!!
why, you buying?
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SAUTO 01:08 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
Whos doing cocaine?!?!?!?!!
Im always down for a party. You buying?
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Rukdafaidas 01:11 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
So May 15th just seems to be the magic date.......
It is, that's George Brett's birthday!
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limested 01:11 PM 04-16-2020
Real helpfull irs.gov ....

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According to information that we have on file, we cannot determine your eligibility for a payment at this time.
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kgrund 01:11 PM 04-16-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
I assume this is going off the SBA's definition of small business? If that is the case according to the SBA 99.7% of all business are small. Well no wonder it ran out of money,
Of the 99.7%, 98.2% of that total have employees less than 100.
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