Did we out leverage ourselves by doing those restructures prematurely? What’s the impact in future seasons. Or would the restructure been better next season?
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
The problem there is we already have enough needs as it is including DE even with Clark on the roster. Get rid of Clark (which I do think is the right move) and our DE depth chart is probably one of the worst in the league. The clear answer is to draft a DE, but you generally don't find elite DE talent in the draft outside of the first round. And considering the first two picks this year probably should include strong consideration at WR and LT, that seems to leave us in a bit of a pickle.
Of course KC does have next year's draft, and that's absolutely why anyone hoping we trade a 2022 1st in some trade for a LT needs to forget that idea. 1st round picks are way too valuable to be trading them off.
Everything depends on the draft. That’s the lifeblood of the team.
Veach started out rough but when Spags got here it really got better. I’d say his 2018 rookie class gets a D grade, 2019 class gets a B- and last years gets a B+.
I think that last years class will turn to an A when we see Gay be a good player. Niang would just be icing on the cake to make that an A+.
Need to have rookie classes at worst like 2019 and at best like 2020 moving forward. [Reply]
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
The problem there is we already have enough needs as it is including DE even with Clark on the roster. Get rid of Clark (which I do think is the right move) and our DE depth chart is probably one of the worst in the league. The clear answer is to draft a DE, but you generally don't find elite DE talent in the draft outside of the first round. And considering the first two picks this year probably should include strong consideration at WR and LT, that seems to leave us in a bit of a pickle.
Of course KC does have next year's draft, and that's absolutely why anyone hoping we trade a 2022 1st in some trade for a LT needs to forget that idea. 1st round picks are way too valuable to be trading them off.
1. Even if the Chiefs go LT/WR in the first 2 rounds, there’s still plenty of talent at the position. It’s not a great edge class at the top, but the depth is there. Guys like Payton Turner, Elerson Smith, Dayo Odeyingbo etc. have a lot of upside. We can absolutely get a starting caliber player in the 3rd. We found a great rotational piece last year at the bottom of the 5th fucking round, and another high upside interior pass rusher as an UDFA.
2. If this team cuts Clark and makes some other moves, they will be buyers in the market next year. They can just as easily replace Clark with a free agent as well. They aren’t going to cut Clark and ignore the position. They traded Ford, cut Houston, then attacked the position. That’s what they do.
3. You did this same thing with the corner position and they found a top 15 talent in the 4th fucking round. You clearly never learn and just move onto the next position to bitch or worry about. We have an excellent front office and scouting department. Maybe relax and let them do their thing? [Reply]
1. Even if the Chiefs go LT/WR in the first 2 rounds, there’s still plenty of talent at the position. It’s not a great edge class at the top, but the depth is there. Guys like Payton Turner, Elerson Smith, Dayo Odeyingbo etc. have a lot of upside. We can absolutely get a starting caliber player in the 3rd. We found a great rotational piece last year at the bottom of the 5th ****ing round, and another high upside interior pass rusher as an UDFA.
2. If this team cuts Clark and makes some other moves, they will be buyers in the market next year. They can just as easily replace Clark with a free agent as well. They aren’t going to cut Clark and ignore the position. They traded Ford, cut Houston, then attacked the position. That’s what they do.
3. You did this same thing with the corner position and they found a top 15 talent in the 4th ****ing round. You clearly never learn and just move onto the next position to bitch or worry about. We have an excellent front office and scouting department. Maybe relax and let them do their thing?
barring injury, I just don't see how Odeyingbo isn't going to be a plus player. Sign me up for that kid! [Reply]
1. Even if the Chiefs go LT/WR in the first 2 rounds, there’s still plenty of talent at the position. It’s not a great edge class at the top, but the depth is there. Guys like Payton Turner, Elerson Smith, Dayo Odeyingbo etc. have a lot of upside. We can absolutely get a starting caliber player in the 3rd. We found a great rotational piece last year at the bottom of the 5th fucking round, and another high upside interior pass rusher as an UDFA.
2. If this team cuts Clark and makes some other moves, they will be buyers in the market next year. They can just as easily replace Clark with a free agent as well. They aren’t going to cut Clark and ignore the position. They traded Ford, cut Houston, then attacked the position. That’s what they do.
3. You did this same thing with the corner position and they found a top 15 talent in the 4th fucking round. You clearly never learn and just move onto the next position to bitch or worry about. We have an excellent front office and scouting department. Maybe relax and let them do their thing?
1. Even if the Chiefs go LT/WR in the first 2 rounds, there’s still plenty of talent at the position. It’s not a great edge class at the top, but the depth is there. Guys like Payton Turner, Elerson Smith, Dayo Odeyingbo etc. have a lot of upside. We can absolutely get a starting caliber player in the 3rd. We found a great rotational piece last year at the bottom of the 5th fucking round, and another high upside interior pass rusher as an UDFA.
2. If this team cuts Clark and makes some other moves, they will be buyers in the market next year. They can just as easily replace Clark with a free agent as well. They aren’t going to cut Clark and ignore the position. They traded Ford, cut Houston, then attacked the position. That’s what they do.
3. You did this same thing with the corner position and they found a top 15 talent in the 4th fucking round. You clearly never learn and just move onto the next position to bitch or worry about. We have an excellent front office and scouting department. Maybe relax and let them do their thing?
I'm shocked this guy isn't STILL bitching about CB and the secondary.
"You saw what happened in the middle of the season when we didn't have Snead... what if he gets hurt again... we're down Breeland, and we've consistently found good CBs late in the draft who make contributions immediately in their rookie seasons, but how much longer can that luck really last?"
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I'm shocked this guy isn't STILL bitching about CB and the secondary.
"You saw what happened in the middle of the season when we didn't have Snead... what if he gets hurt again... we're down Breeland, and we've consistently found good CBs late in the draft who make contributions immediately in their rookie seasons, but how much longer can that luck really last?"
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I'm shocked this guy isn't STILL bitching about CB and the secondary.
"You saw what happened in the middle of the season when we didn't have Snead... what if he gets hurt again... we're down Breeland, and we've consistently found good CBs late in the draft who make contributions immediately in their rookie seasons, but how much longer can that luck really last?"
Blah blah blah...
I haven’t said shit about the secondary in a long time. [Reply]
