Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by TLO:
Antibody test was negative. Not terribly surprised, but was kind of hoping it would come back positive.
Of course now I'm from research on the accuracy of the antibody test I got and I'm not certain I feel too great about the accuracy of the test... I'd probably question it if it showed positive too so whatever. :-) [Reply]
student: *wears pajamas*
teacher: "Are those pajamas that you are wearing?"
student: "Nope."
teacher: "They look like pajamas."
student: "Nope. Prove it."
teacher (to his or herself): "Ok you win." [Reply]
I find myself feeling bad for these kids more and more lately.
This is already a generation that doesn't know how to talk to people or interact with humanity without the use of a screen or the internet. These kids have never known a world without social media. Internet hatred, stupidity, and misinformation has been part of their lives since inception.
And now this COVID crisis has forced kids to lose the one aspect of social interaction (school) they have left.
Certainly they aren't the first generation to deal with fucked up circumstances, but this just sucks. I think back on my middle school and high school days and I remember them fondly. Sports, mingling between classes, skipping out on Algebra to go eat at Taco Tico, learning how to navigate social norms and structure...
This isn't a "Send these kids to school no matter what!" post either. I just think there are lasting implications tied to the decisions adults are making for these kids with regard to their school and their future.
I think they were already going to have some level of fucked-up-edness no matter what, but add this on top of it, and yikes. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Strongside:
I find myself feeling bad for these kids more and more lately.
This is already a generation that doesn't know how to talk to people or interact with humanity without the use of a screen or the internet. These kids have never known a world without social media. Internet hatred, stupidity, and misinformation has been part of their lives since inception.
And now this COVID crisis has forced kids to lose the one aspect of social interaction (school) they have left.
Certainly they aren't the first generation to deal with ****ed up circumstances, but this just sucks. I think back on my middle school and high school days and I remember them fondly. Sports, mingling between classes, skipping out on Algebra to go eat at Taco Tico, learning how to navigate social norms and structure...
This isn't a "Send these kids to school no matter what!" post either. I just think there are lasting implications tied to the decisions adults are making for these kids with regard to their school and their future.
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I think they were already going to have some level of ****ed-up-edness no matter what, but add this on top of it, and yikes.
One positive of being a millennial parent is the ability to help them navigate some of these pitfalls since our knowledge of internet related things are better than our parents were. My parents thought nothing of letting me sit in front of a screen playing video games for hours, or spending every week night hanging out on AOL instant messenger. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Strongside:
I find myself feeling bad for these kids more and more lately.
This is already a generation that doesn't know how to talk to people or interact with humanity without the use of a screen or the internet. These kids have never known a world without social media. Internet hatred, stupidity, and misinformation has been part of their lives since inception.
And now this COVID crisis has forced kids to lose the one aspect of social interaction (school) they have left.
Certainly they aren't the first generation to deal with fucked up circumstances, but this just sucks. I think back on my middle school and high school days and I remember them fondly. Sports, mingling between classes, skipping out on Algebra to go eat at Taco Tico, learning how to navigate social norms and structure...
This isn't a "Send these kids to school no matter what!" post either. I just think there are lasting implications tied to the decisions adults are making for these kids with regard to their school and their future.
I think they were already going to have some level of fucked-up-edness no matter what, but add this on top of it, and yikes.
Great post. People don’t realize there are no perfect solutions and they all have consequences either way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
New Zealand has 4 new cases from a family with no history of travel. So the whole "we squashed it" is kinda off the table.
No one is squashing this thing. We either live with it or piss away all of our social lives and see unemployment/suicides/divorces sky rocket with it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Strongside:
I find myself feeling bad for these kids more and more lately.
This is already a generation that doesn't know how to talk to people or interact with humanity without the use of a screen or the internet. These kids have never known a world without social media. Internet hatred, stupidity, and misinformation has been part of their lives since inception.
And now this COVID crisis has forced kids to lose the one aspect of social interaction (school) they have left.
Certainly they aren't the first generation to deal with ****ed up circumstances, but this just sucks. I think back on my middle school and high school days and I remember them fondly. Sports, mingling between classes, skipping out on Algebra to go eat at Taco Tico, learning how to navigate social norms and structure...
This isn't a "Send these kids to school no matter what!" post either. I just think there are lasting implications tied to the decisions adults are making for these kids with regard to their school and their future.
I think they were already going to have some level of ****ed-up-edness no matter what, but add this on top of it, and yikes.
Yeah, it sucks. My oldest missed his spring soccer season and my middle son missed his 7th grade track season. He already had USATF and AAU times from nationals (in the 200, 400, and 800) that would have shattered the school records. That sucks, but what really stinks was all of the training that he would have done in pursuit of those goals. Now, we're simply hanging on for football and really praying that basketball is here in winter. AAU tournaments have kept the kids playing, but cancelling the school season would be tough. [Reply]
