Man, the more I look at the cap numbers and our cache of picks as well as the areas in which we need to improve our talent level...the more I just think we kind of HAVE to tag and trade Jones and let Watkins go as well.
I don't think we get a Khalil Mack haul, but I've seen a mid #2 floated as well. I think that's horseshit.
What do you think we get in a tag-and-trade scenario for Jones?
What (if any) compensation do you think we'd receive for Watkins? [Reply]
I think a relevant comparison is the tag/trade deal we made with Seattle for Frank Clark. He cost us about 240 points in draft capital, using the Rich Hill chart.
If Jones and Clark get a similar valuation, then I think you can somewhat narrow down likely trading partners.
Based on need, division, draft capital, and salary cap, these teams make sense to me:
Seattle: pick 27 + 2021 third
Detroit: pick 32 + 67
Miami: pick 26 + 2021 third or fourth
Indy: pick 34 + 75
Of course, there are so many possible scenarios it's almost pointless to speculate but I wouldn't be surprised to see any of these. Seattle makes the most sense to me, because they're the closest to contending. [Reply]
For Watkins, I just don't see a team giving up draft capital for the right to overpay Sammy for one year. The team trading for him will absorb a $14 million cap hit, which is expensive, but not insane. The question for a Sammy trade is whether or not there's a team out there that would prefer to get him on an expensive one-year deal VS getting him on a cheaper long-term deal. He's an elite WR2 with an injury history that is getting cut unless rescued by a trade. That's going to push his value down.
We're not getting anything substantial in a Sammy Watkins trade. [Reply]
Originally Posted by wachashi:
I think a relevant comparison is the tag/trade deal we made with Seattle for Frank Clark. He cost us about 240 points in draft capital, using the Rich Hill chart.
If Jones and Clark get a similar valuation, then I think you can somewhat narrow down likely trading partners.
Based on need, division, draft capital, and salary cap, these teams make sense to me:
Seattle: pick 27 + 2021 third
Detroit: pick 32 + 67
Miami: pick 26 + 2021 third or fourth
Indy: pick 34 + 75
Of course, there are so many possible scenarios it's almost pointless to speculate but I wouldn't be surprised to see any of these. Seattle makes the most sense to me, because they're the closest to contending.
I really want two picks in this draft for Jones. Detroits #35 and #67 would be ideal.
1. You send Jones to the NFC, to a team not named the Seahawks, because I don't want to face him in the Super Bowl either.
2. At #35 you can get his replacement or fill in another major need.
3.AT #67 you can get another nice player whether its a WR or offensive linemen.
I haven't seen anyone mention where Jones would actually sign a long term deal. He is from Mississippi. I would assume he would want another chance at a SB. [Reply]
Am I the only one that thinks Jones stays here and plays on a franchise tag deal for a year? They can structure Mahomes' new contract in a cap friendly manner the first year or two and ensure that Jones at least plays on a tag number. I only say that because I don't think anyone is willing to deal us what Jones is worth, and I don't think Veach is going to allow himself to take it in the shorts with some bullshit 2 and a 5 type of offer.... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I haven't seen anyone mention where Jones would actually sign a long term deal. He is from Mississippi. I would assume he would want another chance at a SB.
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I haven't seen anyone mention where Jones would actually sign a long term deal. He is from Mississippi. I would assume he would want another chance at a SB.
Are you saying if he was traded, he wouldn’t want to sign a long term deal because he’d want to become a Chief again?
If so, that’s crazy. He has a chance to set his family up for generations. He signs as soon as it makes sense, Chiefs or elsewhere.
That said, he’s made it known he wants to be a Chief for life. [Reply]