Football It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick. - Page 15

Bill falls to 2-4 without Brady.

Brady goes to 5-2 with Tampa, turning them into a title contender immediately.

Tampa had the #1 SRS (points above avg team) in the NFL of +13.1. And that was before they trashed the Fighting Chuckies today.
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
It really depends on how you're defining "bad coach". Manning's already been mentioned, as have Rodgers and Young, so I'll skip them. But I'll toss out a couple more elite QBs who won in the full free agency era with coaching that's definitely not looked back upon as all world.

Aikman (Switzer)
Favre (Holmgren)

You're maybe being a bit hard on Holmgren, tho

Only getting 1 title after all those years with Favre seems sketchy for sure, but he also won a shitload of games between Green Bay and SEA, and his coaching tree is full of highlights
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I don't think you can be too harsh on BB this year, in addition to losing his starting QB, they did have several players opt-out.
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But Brady will never win another Super Bowl so IDK.
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Season isnt halfway over yet.

I've seen the patriots have a rough first half more than once. I'll let things play out.

The idea that one person is entirely responsible for new England's 20 years of success is just a bad take.
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Cam Newton is dog shit. Something you should factor into this discussion
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Originally Posted by KCJake:
Cam Newton is dog shit. Something you should factor into this discussion

So is Stidham if they don’t roll with him. They had opt outs but all on the defense right?

Another example of Belicheat trying to be the smartest guy in the room?
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Let me tell you, my heart is not bleeding for the brotherfucking Cheatriot scumbags.
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CP keeps getting dumber. Pat's have the most guys out from last year, Cam has a noodle arm and a scrambled egg brain.

It's hoodie all day.
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He ran the wrong ROOT! What’s that all ABOOT?
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Originally Posted by MahiMike:
CP keeps getting dumber. Pat's have the most guys out from last year, Cam has a noodle arm and a scrambled egg brain.

It's hoodie all day.

I’m not making any grand conclusions for 8 games but to just hand wave all of Cheatriot problems aren’t Belicheat is being disingenuous at best.

Pretty sure all the dudes that opted out were on D. So that explains precisely 0.00% of the offensive problems. (I did the math).

All the dudes are his dudes. He picked all of the receivers ends and backs. Cam is his guy Stidham is his guy. OC is his guy. ST is his guy DC is his guy. No GM to blame the talent on. It’s him.

Plus the dudes that opted out, there is a pretty good chance that’s on him. Notorious hard ass dbag coach has the most players opt out? Coincidence?

He gets to take credit for the rings, he has to own the cheating and this seasons buttfuckery. We know, FOR A FACT, that it’s all Belicheat. No coordinator, assistant, personnel guy, no fucking nobody. It’s him. It’s all him. He has to wear this one.
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Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I’m not making any grand conclusions for 8 games but to just hand wave all of Cheatriot problems aren’t Belicheat is being disingenuous at best.

Pretty sure all the dudes that opted out were on D. So that explains precisely 0.00% of the offensive problems. (I did the math).

All the dudes are his dudes. He picked all of the receivers ends and backs. Cam is his guy Stidham is his guy. OC is his guy. ST is his guy DC is his guy. No GM to blame the talent on. It’s him.

Plus the dudes that opted out, there is a pretty good chance that’s on him. Notorious hard ass dbag coach has the most players opt out? Coincidence?

He gets to take credit for the rings, he has to own the cheating and this seasons buttfuckery. We know, FOR A FACT, that it’s all Belicheat. No coordinator, assistant, personnel guy, no fucking nobody. It’s him. It’s all him. He has to wear this one.

:-)
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Originally Posted by chop:
I don't think you can be too harsh on BB this year, in addition to losing his starting QB, they did have several players opt-out.

Agreed. I don't think people are being fair to BB and I don't like the guy.
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Originally Posted by BWillie:
Agreed. I don't think people are being fair to BB and I don't like the guy.

It's not about this year. Even without all the opt-outs and injuries, they're not a championship team.

Coaching brings consistency. QB's bring championships.
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Originally Posted by htismaqe:
It's not about this year. Even without all the opt-outs and injuries, they're not a championship team.

Coaching brings consistency. QB's bring championships.

Brady was terrible last year. And it wasn't all his fault, he didn't have much weapons. But if you go from about the 20th best QB last year to a Top 5 QB this year on a team with elite weapons. You can see how important the system is to success.
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Originally Posted by BWillie:
Brady was terrible last year. And it wasn't all his fault, he didn't have much weapons. But if you go from about the 20th best QB last year to a Top 5 QB this year on a team with elite weapons. You can see how important the system is to success.

It's not just about this year.

It's about 20 years of dominance.

Brady was the Patriots. That ship has sailed. Bill won't win another ring. Bet on it.
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