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Nzoner's Game Room>2019 Free agency Thread
O.city 03:24 PM 02-05-2019
We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/
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saphojunkie 05:31 PM 03-10-2019
I have no idea if Collins will be a good signing, a bad signing, or not sign with KC in general. But, in a vacuum, the way we have seen the strong safety be used is going to be vastly different than what it's about to be.

Perhaps Spagnuolo knows exactly how to use Collins. Perhaps he knows that Collins isn't nearly as good as people think he is. If they pay a premium for him, then one has to assume Spags believes he knows how to make him an elite safety. Personally, I'm more for signing a couple free agents for the same price and increasing your dart throws. There are other guys under 27 who could really help the defense.
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BryanBusby 05:33 PM 03-10-2019
I wouldn't think much about them signing Collins until it's known what they're going to do with Eric Berry.
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mcaj22 05:38 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
you guys throw out the term 'BOX SAFETY' like that's some kind of derogatory term.

In the modern NFL, a 'box safety' or more accurately, a STRONG SAFETY is responsible for covering TE's, slot receivers on slants and short yardage routes, and in run support.

These are things we were absolutely horrible at last year. Landon Collins would've made enough difference alone that we probably beat New England and go to the Super Bowl.

But you guys think he's worth less than a free safety.

He's a defense changing piece, will be 26 years old, and already proven to be a stud in this defensive system. You guys are nuts.
no I know what the role does. I am arguing paying said role 50-60 million dollars to still get beat by Julian Edelman on 3rd and long doesn't seem like a good investment.

You seem convinced Collins would have stopped that. I don't. Agree to disagree.
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pugsnotdrugs19 05:44 PM 03-10-2019
Raiders extend fat ass Jonathan Hankins for 2 years per Schefter
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Chief Roundup 05:46 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
I feel like we blew up the leagues best pass rush to accommodate a shitty DC and his system
:-)
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Chief Northman 05:48 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Raiders extend fat ass Jonathan Hankins for 2 years per Schefter
He was decent for them last season.
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Chris Meck 05:48 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
no I know what the role does. I am arguing paying said role 50-60 million dollars to still get beat by Julian Edelman on 3rd and long doesn't seem like a good investment.

You seem convinced Collins would have stopped that. I don't. Agree to disagree.

I guess pretty much everyone else but you thinks the 3 time pro bowler is pretty good.
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mcaj22 05:51 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I guess pretty much everyone else but you thinks the 3 time pro bowler is pretty good.
I'm not arguing his talent. I am arguing spending that much on one position player now that you have a franchise QB. The days of paying the Berrys and Houstons of the world when you have a QB should be over. Doing it all over again with a guy like Collins just seems like your pushing more issues down the line 2-3 years from now when you need money to pay _____.

Collins on a rookie contract being a 3 time pro bowler is a lot different than Collins on a 50-60 million dollar deal.
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O.city 05:52 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I guess pretty much everyone else but you thinks the 3 time pro bowler is pretty good.
We went thru this a few days ago when you said I was ignorant and didn’t watch football

Then the whole league comes out and says he struggles in coverage and is a reason the giants didn’t tag him
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O.city 05:56 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Raiders extend fat ass Jonathan Hankins for 2 years per Schefter
They’ve got some nice interior depth and players

If they can get some edge rushers they’ll be in business
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KChiefs1 05:57 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
I feel like we blew up the leagues best pass rush to accommodate a shitty DC and his system

Yeah breaking up last year’s defense is going to hurt.
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pugsnotdrugs19 05:59 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by Chief Northman:
He was decent for them last season.
67th ranked D-lineman according to PFF last year, which actually qualifies as above average. Just a space eater with a big fat nasty ass.
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chiefforlife 05:59 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
They’ve got some nice interior depth and players

If they can get some edge rushers they’ll be in business
I always enjoyed Mayocks takes on the draft. He really does his homework. With the draft picks he has to play with, this could set the Raiders up for a long time.

It will be interesting to see if that knowledge translates to an actual GM making his own picks.
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BryanBusby 06:04 PM 03-10-2019
Originally Posted by chiefforlife:
I always enjoyed Mayocks takes on the draft. He really does his homework. With the draft picks he has to play with, this could set the Raiders up for a long time.

It will be interesting to see if that knowledge translates to an actual GM making his own picks.
He's not making the picks would be my guess
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pugsnotdrugs19 06:08 PM 03-10-2019
Mayock’s probably a glorified advisor tbh.
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