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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Conservatives, do you support the DNC’s 16’ and 20’ efforts to derail Bernie
Chiefspants 10:45 PM 02-25-2020
Honest reacts only
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Easy 6 09:32 AM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
I don't really know what shenanigans they are pulling this go around, so I can't speak to that. I have no intentions of voting for anybody on that side of the ball, so I'm not paying close attention.

But I will say that I think the DNC should be able to pick their candidate as they see fit. Plus Bernie doesn't claim to be a Democrat (to my knowledge at least) so if that's true, I don't see where they are obligated to treat him fairly.
That’s about where I’m at, he’s an interloper in that party so I believe it’s their right to treat him accordingly
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Baby Lee 09:39 AM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
I don't really know what shenanigans they are pulling this go around, so I can't speak to that. I have no intentions of voting for anybody on that side of the ball, so I'm not paying close attention.

But I will say that I think the DNC should be able to pick their candidate as they see fit. Plus Bernie doesn't claim to be a Democrat (to my knowledge at least) so if that's true, I don't see where they are obligated to treat him fairly.
There's a difference between the DNC's right to pick whomever they want as a private entity, and a citizen's right to provide input into the decision.

If a citizen's perspective restricts their ability to have any input on the viable choices offered to lead the country, it should by rights have a concomitant relaxation on that citizen's obligation to recognize and submit to that leader, should he or she be elected.
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wazu 09:44 AM 02-26-2020
Not sure what the specific accusation is. If they’re trying to derail him it isn’t working.
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B_Ambuehl 09:45 AM 02-26-2020
Bernies popularity shouldn't be any surprise at all.

When asked if they favor socialism or capitalism 49% of all millenials favor socialism compared to 39% of Genx and 32% of baby boomers.

But when asked if they favor free enterprise or big biz 83% of millenials favor free enterprise.

It's real simple: Millenials have been manipulated by the MSM, hollywood, schools & universities to such an extent they don't understand what they're really voting for or against.
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DJJasonp 09:49 AM 02-26-2020
With thousands and thousands of politicians - this is the best we have to offer?

That said, I thought it was BS the last time, and it's BS this time. All you have to do is watch the talking heads and the post-debate interviews, and you'll see what the powers-that-be want done with Bernie.

Gone are the smiles and softball questions, replaced with firm tones and serious questions.

All of politics is a racket, pure and simple.

But I get why the DNC is doing it. The AOC highlight reels have decreased tremendously as well.

That's good for all of america.

At the end of the day - I think Bernie should have lost a significant amount of respect for being "bought out" by the clinton machine. (either that, or Bern wasnt ready to die by suicide).

But it's hard to believe his "I'll stand up to...." rhetoric, when he wouldnt stand up to Clinton and/or his own party.
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Prison Bitch 09:53 AM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl:
Bernies popularity shouldn't be any surprise at all.

When asked if they favor socialism or capitalism 49% of all millenials favor socialism compared to 39% of Genx and 32% of baby boomers.

But when asked if they favor free enterprise or big biz 83% of millenials favor free enterprise.

It's real simple: Millenials have been manipulated by the MSM, hollywood, schools & universities to such an extent they don't understand what they're really voting for or against.
:-)

How about kucks who thjbk they’re getting “pro life”, “border security”, “fiscal responsibility”, “morality” etc when they vote Pube? Let’s never forget to mock these retards if we’re gonna do so for young folks.
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Beef Supreme 09:55 AM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
I don't really know what shenanigans they are pulling this go around, so I can't speak to that. I have no intentions of voting for anybody on that side of the ball, so I'm not paying close attention.

But I will say that I think the DNC should be able to pick their candidate as they see fit. Plus Bernie doesn't claim to be a Democrat (to my knowledge at least) so if that's true, I don't see where they are obligated to treat him fairly.
Originally Posted by RodeoPants2:
Yup

It seems inconsistent for someone like pants, who screams about "the popular vote" so much, to have this view of the primaries.
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NJChiefsFan27 11:22 AM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
I think the comment has more to do with his people believing they are a majority, when in actual fact, they're a small group.
It is, in fact, the majority of young Democrats. Nobody else comes close. And Sanders is making a powerful ideological case that will outlast him and shape the politics of future generations. If you can't see that you're just not paying attention.

Originally Posted by Eleazar:
I heard a discussion this morning about a poll showing Sanders with a narrow lead in Texas. However this poll (the name of which I didn't catch) had second-choice information and showed that if Bloomberg were not in the race, Biden would be winning by 5 or 6 there.

Unfortunately for the Ds, Biden is still polling ahead in SC, so the chances of him dropping out before Super Tuesday seem slim (if they weren't already), and Bloomberg has no reason to do so either.

They are going to find themselves in a position where people trying to advance their brand or lobbying for a VP nom or a cabinet position are dividing the majority vote too much, and not dropping out until it's too late.
Well, Bloomberg wasn't on the ballot in Nevada and Bernie dominated the rest of the field in a very diverse electorate. In the previous two states, Biden finished a disastrous 4th and 5th.

The other reality is that for many of the more moderate candidates, their voters second choice happens to be Bernie Sanders, which suggests that most voting against him aren't doing so on policy. Certainly all the fear perpetuated in the MSM about his "electability" is a part of the moderate support that we see and as Bernie continues to show that he has the kind of broad support and the grassroots movement that can take on Trump you'll see him siphon off votes from the other candidates.
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BDj23 11:31 AM 02-26-2020
Yeah.

Bernie is leave the country tier.
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Chiefspants 11:31 AM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Beef Supreme:
It seems inconsistent for someone like pants, who screams about "the popular vote" so much, to have this view of the primaries.
Seems like it’d be inconsistent for the whole of the DNC too!

The DNC, if they learned anything from the republicans, need to push out their Jebs now and narrow down their field to three candidates. A divided field allowed Trump to build an insurmountable lead through the passion of his base, the same will likely happen for Bern if the Dems somehow think having 5 jebs in the field is good for their chances.
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NJChiefsFan27 11:52 AM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Seems like it’d be inconsistent for the whole of the DNC too!

The DNC, if they learned anything from the republicans, need to push out their Jebs now and narrow down their field to three candidates. A divided field allowed Trump to build an insurmountable lead through the passion of his base, the same will likely happen for Bern if the Dems somehow think having 5 jebs in the field is good for their chances.
I understand the sentiment, but I'm not really sure what you're suggesting here in reality. The DNC doesn't have the power to influence the process in that way and the other candidates aren't going to sacrifice their campaigns for the greater good of the theoretically most viable non Sanders candidate. You would need them to come together and conspire and that's just not going to happen. The best they can do is have the media do their bidding for them which, if anything, has only backfired to this point.

Bernie is going to win this and there's really nothing any of them can do about it.
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Prison Bitch 12:12 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Seems like it’d be inconsistent for the whole of the DNC too!

The DNC, if they learned anything from the republicans, need to push out their Jebs now and narrow down their field to three candidates. A divided field allowed Trump to build an insurmountable lead through the passion of his base, the same will likely happen for Bern if the Dems somehow think having 5 jebs in the field is good for their chances.

That lie just won’t die^

That’s not even close to what happened in 2016. I busted that myth multiple times. Don was running quite high on the “2nd choice” polling data and he was guaranteed (because of that) to consolidate big chunks of the vote left behind by dropouts. Which is precisely what happened.
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ghak99 12:17 PM 02-26-2020
Sooner or later the Dems, and eventually the country as a whole, are going to have to deal with the toddlers. They might as well let it boil over and attempt to get it over with while Trump is POTUS.
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LiveSteam 12:23 PM 02-26-2020
Good times.
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Chiefspants 12:23 PM 02-26-2020
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
That lie just won’t die^

That’s not even close to what happened in 2016. I busted that myth multiple times. Don was running quite high on the “2nd choice” polling data and he was guaranteed (because of that) to consolidate big chunks of the vote left behind by dropouts. Which is precisely what happened.
Eh, maybe. Trump’s unfavorably rate among republicans hovered between 30-40% at this point of the 2016 GOP primary. There was a moment when a more narrow field would have benefitted the establishment GOP immensely. This window closed quickly as Trump’s momentum continued to progress.
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