We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.
If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
A safety that's mediocre in coverage on his best day and a liability most of the time just isn't too appealing, especially when offenses now more than ever look to exploit every weakness they possibly can. If they want to kick Berry to the curb, fine, but better not have both.
Except he wasn't mediocre in coverage on his best day. He was the 3rd best safety in the league according to both PFF and PFR in 2016. He was GREAT in coverage that one year.
Although, I do agree that the "norm" for him doesn't appear to be 2016. [Reply]
Originally Posted by :
When he first entered the league in 2015, Collins was used as a true free safety and played deep down the field en route to an underwhelming overall grade of 49.2, which was the third-lowest grade among safeties that year. Then, in 2016, Collins was moved to strong safety and played much closer to the line of scrimmage and his grade sky-rocketed as he earned a spot on the PFF top 101 for two straight years. For such a turn to take place, it should be obvious that Collins is much better suited for playing as a box safety, and that’s the role he should play on his new team if he wants to reclaim his spot as one of the league’s best safeties.
To be fair, Collins did play 59.4% of his snaps from the box last season, which is the highest percentage in any of his four seasons so far. However, the Giants’ defense was in such disarray that it made it hard for anyone to be the best they could be, hence Collins’ lowest-graded season in three years. As a team, the Giants’ defense had a grade of 71.6 last season, ranking 26th in the NFL. For someone who has star potential like Collins, you can’t blame him for looking elsewhere this offseason, but teams need to understand that they can’t just plug him at deep safety and expect him to fly all over the field with range like Earl Thomas. If anything, he’s more of a Kam Chancellor.
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
What the hell has Spags ever done to earn "Extreme" confidence?
When working in a stable and solid environment, his results have been VERY worthy of confidence. Also, those two rings on his fingers don't hurt a fucking thing either.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
This.
Until they move on from Eric Berry, signing a guy like Collins is not only expensive but redundantly expensive.
Not really. One will be on the field playing to his full potential, and the other will be "day to day". [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I don't know. Berry got flat out abused by Gronk in the AFCCG. He looked slow and weak.
And while you can say he was injured, so was Gronk. Berry looked terrible. I'm not comfortable with him being a day 1 starter at all.
This is what I saw also. Berry, even if healthy, is nothing more than an average Safety at this point; definitely not worth the $12 million or whatever he'd make next year. I'd rather just move on and cut our losses. [Reply]
There will be a strong market for Landon Collins, now that #Giants opt not to tag or sign him to a new deal. My sense from talking with league sources last week is #Chiefs will make him a priority. Here are some potential landing spots: https://t.co/q2qwd8p8uw
Originally Posted by old_geezer:
This is what I saw also. Berry, even if healthy, is nothing more than an average Safety at this point; definitely not worth the $12 million or whatever he'd make next year. I'd rather just move on and cut our losses.