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Nzoner's Game Room>***OFFICIAL 2019 Chiefs Training Camp Thread***
RealSNR 02:58 PM 07-23-2019
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In the meantime, this gem from Andy Reid's press conference today:

Andy Reid was asked if he did anything fun or exotic this offseason: “I attacked a couple Chile rellenos.”

— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) July 23, 2019


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New World Order 10:33 AM 08-06-2019
#40 gets beat in pretty much every offensive highlight I've seen :-)
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Mecca 10:39 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by New World Order:
#40 gets beat in pretty much every offensive highlight I've seen :-)
That's D'Montre Wade who people think is making the team...
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kcclone 10:40 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
It sure seems like Hardman is on the fast track (no pun intended) to being a real playmaker in this offense. Every day we see him coming down with big catches.

If he is a true hit, it’s going to make the transition of a post-Watkins release rather seamless I would say.

Based on what I saw Sunday, I'd say he's a clear #3 right now. That bodes well for the future.
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smithandrew051 11:08 AM 08-06-2019
Here’s my best guess as to what the 53 man roster will look like. We’ll most likely make a trade or two that will change this.

Offense:

QB (2): Patrick Mahomes, Chad Henne; no real challenge here.
RB (6): Damien Williams, Carlos Hyde, Darwin Thompson, Darrell Williams, Anthony Sherman, John Lovett; lots of backs for a true committee approach. Lovett’s versatility gets him a spot.
TE (2): Travis Kelce, Blake Bell; Lovett serves as TE3
OL (8): Eric Fisher, Andrew Wylie, Austin Reiter, LDT, Mitchell Schwartz, Cam Erving, Khalil McKenzie, Nick Allegretti; no real surprises here.
WR (7): Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Demarcus Robinson, Mecole Hardman, Byron Pringle, Cody Thompson, Gehrig Deiter; I prefer Custis’s upside, but Gehrig probably gets the nod.

Defense:
DL (8): Frank Clark, Chris Jones, Derrick Nnadi, Alex Okafor, Breeland Speaks, Khalen Saunders, Tanoh Kpassgnon, Emmanuel Ogbah; lots of bodies and a constant rotation.
LB (6): Anthony Hitchens, Reggie Ragland, Damien Wilson, Darron Lee, Ben Niemman, Dorian O’Daniel
S (5): Tyran Mathieu, Juan Thornhill, Daniel Sorensen, Jordan Lucas, Armani Watts; went with an extra safety, since these guys are so versatile.
CB (6): Bashaud Breeland, Charvarious Ward, Kendall Fuller, Rashad Fenton, Mark Fields, D’Montre Wade; I’m assuming there will be a trade here eventually. People seem to like Wade and Fields, so I’m guessing they make it for now. I really hope we make a move here.

Specialists (3):

K: Harrison Butler
P: Dustin Colquitt
LS: James Winchester
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Buckweath 11:09 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by kcclone:
Based on what I saw Sunday, I'd say he's a clear #3 right now. That bodes well for the future.
Robinson is #3. I'm a big fan of his.

Hardman can be #4.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:14 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by Buckweath:
Robinson is #3. I'm a big fan of his.

Hardman can be #4.
I like Robinson too, but he’s not the more talented player of the two.

If Hardman is picking up the offense well, he should play.
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pugsnotdrugs19 11:16 AM 08-06-2019
I’d say that’s a pretty darn accurate 53 projection. I wonder about Tremon Smith though.

Guy could play RB, CB in a pinch, and return kicks. That’s solid, cheap value. If Andy sees something in him at RB, he’ll stick.
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Buckweath 11:16 AM 08-06-2019
I've seen many people who think Xavier Williams is not making the team but I really think he will be part of the 53.

Not only is he a solid player on the last year of his deal but after Nnadi, there is just not much in terms of run stuffing DT on this team. Saunders is just a rookie.

You want to keep Williams for those goal line situations and as a backup to Nnadi.

That Patriots are going to run the ball a lot this year. I wouldn't let a run stuffing DT like Williams leave at all. You'll need that meat.
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Buckweath 11:19 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I like Robinson too, but he’s not the more talented player of the two.

If Hardman is picking up the offense well, he should play.
Hardman will become a better player but right now Robinson has three years of experience in this league and three years in Reid's system.

Still, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Hardman is already better than Robinson this year but I am hoping Robinson does well. He has talent too IMO and now has experience and apparently good chemistry with Mahomes.
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smithandrew051 11:19 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I’d say that’s a pretty darn accurate 53 projection. I wonder about Tremon Smith though.

Guy could play RB, CB in a pinch, and return kicks. That’s solid, cheap value. If Andy sees something in him at RB, he’ll stick.
Thanks!

I’m thinking Smith gets traded. With this much offensive talent, I can’t see us keeping someone as a returner.

I think Hardman returns punts. I could see someone like Thompson returning kicks eventually.
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Mecca 11:20 AM 08-06-2019
Obviously a 53 is a guess but if I were to guess at it....I'd make a few changes to his roster.

I don't think we carry 7 WRs I think Cody Thompson and Custis are prime PS candidates, also think Dieter will stick around as the team mascot but on IR. I think they go 5 WR's and use that 6th spot to keep Tremon Smith around.

Defensively...I think Lucas and Fenton are toast as they go with 9 DB's to carry an extra DL and an extra LB. Your roster has them with 3 DT's, I think Williams or Hamilton gets a spot.

I also think Attouchu is making the roster because he has experience as a SLB and has played some rush end, Spags is a big fan of SLB's that have DE rush skills.
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RealSNR 11:27 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Obviously a 53 is a guess but if I were to guess at it....I'd make a few changes to his roster.

I don't think we carry 7 WRs I think Cody Thompson and Custis are prime PS candidates, also think Dieter will stick around as the team mascot but on IR. I think they go 5 WR's and use that 6th spot to keep Tremon Smith around.

Defensively...I think Lucas and Fenton are toast as they go with 9 DB's to carry an extra DL and an extra LB. Your roster has them with 3 DT's, I think Williams or Hamilton gets a spot.

I also think Attouchu is making the roster because he has experience as a SLB and has played some rush end, Spags is a big fan of SLB's that have DE rush skills.
Lucas is actually a pretty good backup safety. I'd prefer we cut somebody more worthless like Watts.
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OKchiefs 11:29 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
That's D'Montre Wade who people think is making the team...
We have awesome depth at corner so we should be fine. Oh wait...
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RunKC 11:30 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
It sure seems like Hardman is on the fast track (no pun intended) to being a real playmaker in this offense. Every day we see him coming down with big catches.

If he is a true hit, it’s going to make the transition of a post-Watkins release rather seamless I would say.
Pete Sweeney thinks Hardman could win the 3rd receiver job for week one. He has been that good.

Robinson has good chemistry with Pat and knows the system better, but he doesn’t have the gifts Hardman does. He isn’t a deep threat like him.
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Mecca 11:31 AM 08-06-2019
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Lucas is actually a pretty good backup safety. I'd prefer we cut somebody more worthless like Watts.
I get that, I like Lucas more than Sorenson but Lucas is a 2 million dollar backup and I don't think they want to cut a guy who won't make 2 million dollars for the next 3 years. There may be a few money decisions made because of well contracts.
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